Wagon Jumpers - June 28 - July 4th, 2009 (Closed, Waiting List FULL!)
Welcome
(I have closed the waiting list at 4 people which is currently a 16 week wait, I will re-open in after we drop below 4 people. To find out what this group is about read below.)
Welcome to the Wagon Jumpers weekly thread. We are a group of CC members who have identified that one of our main challenges with achieving our weight loss, maintenance or general health goals is consistency.
This thread is designed to encourage long term commitment to our goals by publicly declaring them and asking the other members of this thread to hold us accountable. The primary focus of wagon jumpers is not how much weight you have lost, or need to loose, but what you need to do on a daily basis to meet your long term goals.
There are two rules for Wagon Jumpers:
1. All members must post once per week between Sunday and Friday.
2. All members must check the thread for members who have not posted by Saturday (a short list is posted on Thursday) or are on the MIA list on Sunday and send them a polite and positive message to stay involved in the group and on track with their goals.
If you would like to be a member of this thread please see the guidelines below and send me a PM if you are still interested (there may be a waiting list).
Medium Size Group = Some Time Commitment
The original idea of Wagon Jumpers was to create a close community where participants could get to know each other and hopefully form virtual-life and perhaps even physical-life bonds to create a support network as they attempted long term weight loss.
We quickly discovered that this was impossible with an 'always open' group as there were too many people coming and going. For this reason the group is finding its optimum level is between 20 and 25 participants.
A medium sized group means that we have an active thread that produces between 30 - 45 posts per week. Members do not need to read / respond to every post every week. I do notice that those who respond regularly do tend to keep their goals top of mind, and have a better chance to achieve them. I estimate the average time spent by an active member on Wagon Jumpers to be between 1-2 hours per week.
If you are looking for an always open group on CC there are several that operate by different weight criteria, similar motivational patterns etc... There are also many small groups that cap their numbers between 4-10 people to keep the group more intimate, and easier for members to keep up with.
Interested in Joining?
General Guidelines for Joining
1. Are you a wagon jumper?
Do you know how to loose weight, you often have success but then you find yourself loosing interest in your plan, or sabotaging your plan. It's not the "how" to loose weight that is the problem, it's the "how" to stay motivated.
2. Do you have a long way to go?
This group is designed so that members can get to know each other and support each other. Ideally you are planning to be a CC member and part of this forum for at least 6 months or more to achieve your goals and hopefully stay in motivation for a further 6 months or more.
Yes. This is, a long term plan.
3. Do you have the time?
This is a medium sized group, the thread does move fairly quickly each week. If you do not have regular internet access this is likely not the group for you.
Still interested?
Send Supersized a PM. (Please do not reply on the thread)
An overview will be sent to you, you will have a chance to ask questions and an invitation will be sent to you once a spot is open.
Google Group
We have recently added a google group as an option for members, past members, and members on the waiting list. If you would like access to the google group (and are in one of the above categories) send a message to beaglesmuggler (at) roger.com with your username and e-mail address and I will add you to the google group.
Wagon Jumpers Participants
Year 1 - Week 8 Riders:
Supersized 
(myself)
Year 1 - Week 4 Riders - Congratulations on 13 Months!:
Year 1 Riders - CONGRATULATIONS ON 1 YEAR!:
Week 50 Riders:
Week 49 Riders:
Week 46 Riders:
Week 40 Riders - Congratulations on 10 Months!:
Week 36 Riders - Congratulations on 9 Months!:
Week 32 Riders - Congratulations on 8 Months!:
Week 31 Riders:
Week 30 Riders:
Week 29 Riders:
Week 28 Riders - Congratulations on 7 Months!:
Week 25 Riders:
Week 24 Riders - Congratulations on 6 Months!:
Week 7 Riders:
Week 5 Riders:
Week 4 Riders - Congratulations on 1 Month!:
Week 2 Riders:
Missing In Action:
Missing In Action - 1 Week:
Missing In Action - 2 Weeks:
Current Membership: 21
Current Waiting List: 4
Outstanding Wait List Invites: 0
12 Week CONSISTENCY GOALS
(as set w/o June 28th, 2009)
By September 19th, I will be...
Msmeg1984 - NEW: eating a weekly average of 2,000 cal/day and, MAINTENANCE: exercising 3x/week for at least 9 of the 12 weeks.
Dovelette - NEW: NROLFW 3x week for 9 out of 12 weeks.
Merimeriqcontrary - NEW: 3 times/week exercise for at least 9 out of the 12 weeks.
Wenchie58 - NEW: Logging my food intake of <1500 cals per day at least 5 days per week.
Figurethefat - NEW: to run/walk a minimum of six 5ks per month. MAINTENANCE:to continue doing a minimum of 1,500 exercise minutes per month.
Kyashiis - NEW: Run a minimum of 3 kilos 12 times over the 12-week period. MAINTENANCE:I will zig-zag on my food intake consistently throughout each week and end up with an average daily calorie count of 1,100 cals.
Raven21 - NEW: Eat all my yummy, healthy meals (3) and snacks (2) before 9pm for 12 weeks, with no more than 12 days missed. MAINTENANCE:Exercise at least 3 times a week
Supersized - NEW: Go to gym 3x/week for 6 of 12 weeks. MAINTENANCE: Log all food for 9 of 12 weeks.
Cawilder - NEW: Log my food 85% of the time. MAINTENANCE: Running at least 5 hrs/week and lifting 2x/week.
Lam7 - NEW: Consistently log all calories 5 of 7 days a week. MAINTENANCE: Exercise at least once a week.
Nannygabber - MAINTENANCE: Strength training 3x/week for 9 of 12 weeks. Macronutrient ratio of 40/30/30 (carb/fat/protein) for 9 of 12 weeks.
Germaica - NEW: Exercise at least 3x/week for at least 30 min for 9 of 12 weeks. MAINTENANCE: Continue to eat 1 portion of high iron food at least 4 times per week.
Jessicaanne2001 - NEW: Keep calories under 2,000 checking by logging food 4x/week. MAINTENANCE: workout at the gym 4x/week
Carryonandon - NEW: Exercise 3x weekly MAINTENANCE: 300-500 calorie deficit daily.
Tiegurl - NEW: Work out 6x/week (weights & cardio) MAINENANCE: Log 1700 cal/day.
Pelkeyjm - NEW: Lift weights 3x/week MAINTENANCE: Cardio 3x/week for at least 30 minutes.
Constanza - NEW: For the next 12 weeks, less twelve days I will follow this meal plan: 3 meals, 1 snack and 1 dessert per day, no more than 7 alcoholic drinks per week. MAINTENANCE: exercise an average of 2x/week.
Declanphenias - NEW: Exercise 4x/week for 9 of 12 weeks.
Jnielsen006 - NEW: exercise at least 2 days a week for 45 minutes at least 9 of 12 weeks.
Previous Threads:
Wagon Jumpers - June 21 - 27th, 2009
Wagon Jumper - June 14 - 20th, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - June 7 - 13th, 2009
Wagon Jumpers May 31 - June 6th, 2009
Wagon Jumpers May 24 - 30th, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - May 17 - 23rd, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - May 10 - 16th, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - May 3 - 9th, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - April 26 - May 2nd, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - April 19 - 25th, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - April 12 - 18th, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - April 5 - April 11th, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - March 29 - April 4th, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - March 22 - 28th, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - March 15 - 21st, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - March 8 - 14th, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - March 1 - 7th, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - February 22 - 28th, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - February 15 - 21st, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - February 8 - 14th, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - February 1 - 7th, 2009
As always all members are encouraged to tag this thread so that it is easy to find.
Weekly Topic: GOAL SETTING
PLEASE SEE (Supersized's next) POST BELOW OUTLINING THE RULES FOR GOAL SETTING.
Goal setting is a completely optional part of this group.
1 YEAR CONGRATULATIONS: WENCHIE/VICKI
I would like to take a moment to thank Vicki "Wenchie58" for being a member of this group for 1 year.
I know this has been an especially difficult year for you, and you have faced personal health challenges that many of us cannot imagine. Thank you for sharing your journey with us. I know that I personally have learned much about my own health and nutrition by having you in this group willing to share your challenges and solutions. You are a very inspiring member of this group, and I'm so happy that you have shared so much of yourself with us.
12 Week Challenge: CONGRATULATIONS Lee-Anne!
On April 5th, 2009 14 Wagon Jumpers set out to complete 12 week personal challenge consistency goals to improve our overall health habits. Of those 14 Wagon Jumpers 12 successfully completed the journey. Congratulations to all of you. Most members completed the journey with over 50% success!!
A big congratulations goes out to Lee-Anne "Lam" who successfully completed her goal and reached her first 12 week target!
Motivational Guru
The winner of the motivational Guru this month is Carrie "Raven". Thank you Raven for sending out messages to those of us who need a little boost.
Want to be a motivational Guru? Be sure to send positive and inspiring messages to members who have not checked in by the end of the week or who are on the MIA list, you could win an i-tunes gift card, a t-shirt, or some stuff Sara want's to get rid of while moving (kidding)!
Here I am - about to go crazy this week. Wanted to drop in and post my goals while I was thinking of it:
- exercise 3x a week for 9 of 12 weeks and since i'm switching back to weight training i'm upping my calorie average to 2,000 a week.
Hope you all have a great week, if i have a chance to check in, i will. Otherwise i will be running my little but off getting things set up for the fair!
GOAL SETTING!
That's right this is the week for the goal setting challenge! I highly recommend you post your goal EARLY in the week. All goals that meet the criteria below will be posted on this weeks thread and stay live until September 19th, 2009. If your goal does not meet the criteria below, I will ask clarifying questions on the thread and send you a message, the final goal, must be posted no later than July 4th, 2009.
The Rules
1. Goal Setting is Optional
Goal setting is a motivational part of this group, if it does not work for you as a motivational tool, please feel free to be a cheerleader for those who do set goals.
2. Goals must be posted on the June 28 - July 4th, 2009 thread
No exceptions. Editing the goals into the main thread is a time commitment for me, so I ask that anyone who wants to participate makes sure that the goals are up on the thread between June 28th and July 4th... goals posted earlier or later will not be in the introduction thread, although do feel free to update the group on your progress as we go along.
3. Consistency Based Goals Only
While we all have goals that read: I want to be X lbs or Y size... these are not things that you directly control, they are results of your consistent work to lead a healthier lifestyle. Tell us what you are going to DO to improve your health, are you going to eat better, exercise, drink more water, take walks, run, bike, climb, do yoga, meditate, breath....
4. Measurable Goals
At the end of 12 weeks you will need a quantifiable way to say if you succeeded or not... Saying you are going to "eat better" is a broad objective, and depending on your mood on the 12th week you may be overly optimistic or pessamistic about your success. On the other hand if you say you are going to "eat 1 fruit and 1 vegetable every day" or "eat at an aveage of 2,000 cal/day" or "limit myself to no more than 1 serving of red meat each week" these goals you can measure success against objectively.
5. One New Goal + One Maintenance Goal (only)
This is always the single most difficult rule for members, old members let new members know how helpful this has been in the long run. Wagon jumpers are notorious for making well formed elaborate plans that we inevitably can't or don't follow through on.
You are 100% free to have tens, hundreds or thousands of goals for yourself, however we will prioritize and limit here.
A maintenance goal must be something that you already have well in hand, that you are not currently struggling to incorporate into your daily life. A maintenance goal functions as a benchmark as you add a new goal to see if adding a new goal throws off your already established habits.
I HIGHLY recommend that new mebmers stick to 1 new goal and avoid the maintenance goal altogehter.
Make sure if you are submitting two goals that you highlight which is the maintenance goal so that I don't come back to you and ask you to pick one new goal only.
6. Keep it simple
A goal should be easily able to articulate in one shot sentence, if I need a calculator to figure out your goal or if it takes a paragraph to explain it's likely too complicated for you to follow for 12 weeks.
7. Have Fun!
And that's and order! Remember goal setting is supposed to be affirming and positive, not oppressive and punishing. Keep your goals simple and achievable, it's remarkably hard to keep even simple promises for 12 weeks, but intensely rewarding if you do.
Okay so I'm going to go with the exercise goal because, as much as I always feel I have it "in the bag," I don't. Hopefully I'll get this right...
For the next 12 weeks I will complete the NROLFW 3x per week at least 8 out of 12 weeks and 2x per week the remaining 4 weeks, and will complete at least 2 hours of Callanatiecs weekly.
MsMeg Got it! Good Luck with your big 4th of July event! Stay sane!
Dove I think you may have more than one goal here, probably the number one thing people get frustrated with me for on this thread is coming back and asking simplification, prioritization and more simplification... in this case you have a lot of "and's" and qualifiers in this goal, which I think will make it hard to remember / follow / track over 12 weeks:
1. NROLFW 3x/week for 8 of 12 weeks.
2. NROLFW 2x/week for 4 of 12 weeks.
3. 2 hrs of Callanatiecs weekly.
If you count the andsin the sentence I use that as a rule of thumb for the number of goals.
I think the first key to remember is just because it isn't up on the thread does not mean that you don't try for it. For example you have no room for an week where you simply are not on your game here. If you miss even one week of Callanatiecs you are going to say that you did not meet your goal. Similarly you back out of giving yourself room by only allowing yourself to have a margin of error of one day on the NROLFW by forcing a secondary measurement for the other 12 weeks.
My recommendation would be to put your pass/fail on the first goal NROLFW for 8 of 12 weeks. You try for the other ones but you don't declared the goal 'failed' if you don't achieve them. Give yourself as much room for success as possible.
I knew you'd say that ;)
Okay so my goal is:
NROLFW 3x week for 9 out of 12 weeks. Period.
Weekly check in:
Off the wagon with eating, trying not to overeat but having quite a hard time. No time to cook, no time to sleep, exams, worry ugh.
I'm sorry I haven't been around much these days, but I'm so sleep deprived I could fall off my feet now. 2 days 'till thesis defense. (*swoons*)
My goal is this: 3 times/week exercise for at least 9 out of the 12 weeks (I consider exercise anything that gets me sweating and moving my behind for over 30 minutes).
I've spent this past week wrapping my head around getting back on the "Wagon". I firmly believe that this challenge is 80% in the mindset. I am going to set my goal as a new member because essentially I am starting over. I have nothing to maintain since I haven't been following any plan.
12 week GOAL: Logging my food intake of <1500 cals per day at least 5 days per week.
Good luck all!!
Thanks for the congrats Sara...hopefully this next year won't have as many hurdles! This is my year for health success!
Hiya ladies,
weekly check in: This week and especially these last three days have been crazy. MY boyfriend of 3/12 years and I had "the talk" that we've been needing to have for quite sometime now and are officially on a break. What really makes these days crazy is that I've already met someone and am going on a date with him today. Many people would prob. not recommend dating someone so soon but I kindof missed out on the dating thing. I didnt really date that much before I met my boyfriend (I was a late bloomer) and when we did meet we went straight into spending all of our time together. Its very exciting to think that I have a date. Thanks for listening everyone. Its nice to be able to share things like this. That being said my eating has been crazy. I did manage to get alot of workouts in..maybe even too much because by Friday my body was pretty tired. I havent been giving my body off days for weights. I've been doing the weight circuits that my trainer gave me and then doing power pump class the other days. I've also been drinking more and not that I go out and get drunk but I dont even want to know how many calories are in my fruity drinks that I get.
Goal:
Since atleast half of these 12 weeks will be during the summer time when I am not working I am going to set high work out goals. It will be hard once school gets started again but hopefully I'll have my routine down.
workout at the gym 4X week. That leaves either two off days or home workouts (its crazy to even think of working out outside when its 104 degress).
I will log my food 4 X week with a goal of keeping calories below 2000.
6 months on wagon jumpers....all I can say is thank you to each and everyone of you. Your stories of both achievements and failures has taught me alot and has helped me succeed. Without your motivation I could not do this. THANK YOU!
Maintenance goal: to continue doing a minimum of 1,500 exercise minutes per month.
New 12 week goal: to run/walk a minimum of six 5ks per month.
This week marks the one-year mark for using this CC+ site. It has been a wild ride. Thanks to Sara's friendly but strict admonitions on goal setting, I have made wobbly progress towards my health goals. I am 15 lbs lighter than I was at this time last year. Then, I had the added incentive of going to the states in December of last year.
I have learned a lot about my own thinking in regards to health and weight. I am still in the obese range, but at the low end. I need to lose about 25 lbs to get into the moderately healthy weight range. Ah... so close but so far away.
So, this round, I have decided to concentrate on the following two goals.
Maintenance goal: I will zig-zag on my food intake consistently throughout each week and end up with an average daily calorie count of 1,100 cals.
New goal: Run a minimum of 3 kilos 12 times over the 12-week period. (That's running, not wogging or jogging or walking or hiking.)
I will go to the States again in September. It's right around the corner. I expect to lose five lbs by then by being consistent in pursuing these goals.
Sara. Thanks for taking the time to help us all in thinking about our priorities and supporting us as we keep from falling off the WAGON.
Maintenance Goal: Exercise at least 3 times a week
New Goal: Eat all my yummy, healthy meals (3) and snacks (2) before 9pm for 12 weeks, with no more than 12 days missed.
I'll post more later. Goals are looking great people!
Carrie
Hi everyone,
I think that this time around I'm not going to set a formal goal. I just plan to continue eating healthfully for me and Little One, and try to exercise when I can, but I'm not going to put definition around it and I'm not going to track anything. My due date is 8/27, and I just have too many other things encroaching on my mind and time right now, to keep up with everything!
I will still participate in the weekly check ins, though, and try to keep up with how everyone else is doing! By September 19th I should be a bit more sane (with a newborn, yeah, right), but I expect that I'll be able to re-establish goals, etc., at that time.
defrog - 8/27? That's my wedding anniversary, 4 years this August! Congrats and not making a formal goal sounds like a plan. A friend of mine just had a baby and I think towards the end her goals was just to make it through the day without sleeping it away (in the last couple weeks or so)
Dove LOL, got it!
Meri Hey, you managed to check in and set a goal, that's something! I think that's a really achievable goal as well.
Vicki You've got some grace time built in there by only holding yourself to 5 days each week, which I think is acheivable if you're used to logging, let me know if you want to build in any more (i.e. 9 of 12 weeks).
Jessica Those fruity cocktails will add up, but it's also important to enjoy yourself and likely to let yourself have some time. Keep in mind that when you are doing weights, especially if you are doing a program like NROLFW that you actually do not get the benefits unless you do the rest time. It's during the resting period that you actually build the muscles, you cause little micro tears in them when you work out and it's the rest period that builds them back up. If you're into weights maybe consider doing one day weights one day cardio if you don't want to skip a day.
On the goals, which goal is your maintenance and which is your new goal? Also, same question as Vicki, you have some grace time built in by only holding yourself to 4 days per week, let me know if you want extra grace time, i.e. 9 weeks of 12.
Laura I'm assuming that your run/walk of 5ks will conunt towards your minimum exercise, yes?
Kathy Your goals look good and very achievable. Looks like you'll be in the states on goal check in!
Carrie Looks good!
Denise That makes sense, I didn't realize how close you and my cousin are in pregnancy, her due date is 8/24, we've painted the nursery and justs moved them into their new home. This summer heat is killing her and she's seriously considering clogs!
Oh, and yes I agree getting through the next couple of months and adjusting to baby will be a big adjustment, just get yourself through it, I'm not going to be surprised if you need a good two or three rounds before you're back to goal setting.
Check-In
This past week wasn't a good one either, it started off okay on the eating front, but fell off at the end of the week. Completely missed the exercise. I need to wrap my head around the fact that I will not be able to make it to the gym in the morning and simply make it part of my routine to get off work, go to the gym, then come home!
To that end I packed my gym bag and put it in the car this morning. It's interesting how something as simple as going home to change can derail me from actually going to the gym.
Goals
NEW: Go to the gym 3x/week for 6 of the 12 weeks.
MAINTENANCE: Log all food for 9 of 12 weeks.
Hi,
Goals:
NEW: Log my food 85% of the time.
MAINTENANCE: Running @ least 5 hours / week and 2X weight lifting.
This week in the review -
Not a bad week. I really tried to log my food. Each day I identifed ways to improve my nutrition and lower my caloric intake. I am worried that I gain weight while eating about 1700 and exercising as much as I do. I am concerned that three is someting else going on. I have been logging every single thing that has been going into my mouth. I have been achieving a 100 to 1200 calories deficit. So, not really sure what is going on... Frustrating.
I generally run on the trails but last week was the first time I did a long road run - it was HOT! but I am trying to be more flexible with where I run. I also ran at the Oregon Coast over the weekend - up and over to Tillamook Head which is gorgeous but a very dicey trail run - lots of tree roots!
I have restarted NROLFW and forgone by other weight workout that was done by a trainer. I prefer NROLFW... I went back to Stage 1 again - golly those Prone JackKnifes can be embarrasing in the gym. But they are very effective!
Take care...
Check-in: All went well, and I have been really focusing on this next round of goal setting. I can't help but remember how easy and effective it was when I first started CC a year and a half ago..combining consistent food logging with a great balance of exercise to ensure success with my weight loss. That great cocktail lasted a good six months, and then I fell off the wagon. Having found this group has given me the strength to understand my weaknesses and passionately thrive on my successes. So....
NEW GOAL: Consistently log all calories 5 out of 7 days of the week, over the next 12 weeks.
Maintenance: Exercise at a minimum once a week over the next 12 weeks.
Hey all!
CHECKIN: I fell off the wagon this past weekend. I don't like excuses, but I have one. It was the first time I've seen my boyfriend at length for over 7 weeks (aside from my two-day birthday trip to Philly). He got to be home for almost 4 days. YAY! Needless to say, I managed to get 3 workouts in before he got here on Thursday, but only two were NROLFW, SO... my 91% is actually less. As for eating this past weekend, forget about it. I mean, I know its ok to "blow it out" once in a while, but I tripped up for about 5 days. Including today. My "start-over" day. Granted, while he was here, my TTOM got a serious hold on me (it was a very harsh one!), and tequila seemed to be the only remedy. Not to mention cheese fries, and a big juicy steak. ... oh, and the homemade brownies he asked for, and did not take with him. I'm a mess. I haven't completely over done it (maybe just mildly...LOL), but those brownies have got to go in the garbage.
SO - goals must be set. I am going to the gym in about an hour. That is one thing I will not let slide. I suppose I am on rations for dinner, considering the brownies this afternoon. (GOSH I MISSED HIM.) It's looking more and more like a Protein Bar, as opposed to anything rewarding. (Just need a little knot jerked into my tail..)
I have to admit, Sara, that I am not enjoying setting a new goal. It feels like I want to have two maintenance goals. I mean, actually, I am not sure if logging would be new or maintenance for me, since I haven't done it the past 12 weeks. I still want to have lifting as a goal, which... I know I can have it as a goal without posting it here, but honestly, it won't have the same effect if I don't post it. Make sense?
Besides, without lifting and logging, what else do I do? I haven't got the mindset or finances to go take dance classes the way I want... and rock climbing requires a bunch of expensive gear... I have struggled with this all week, and I just don't know which way to go. I don't really have a new goal. Not one I know I will do anyhow...
SO - Here is what I would like to be able to post.
GOALS:
MTC - Strength Training 3x per week.
NEW (?) - Macronutrient ratio of 40/30/30 (Carb/fat/protein).
Both for a minimum of 9 out of 12 weeks (allowing for vacation!)
I know that the idea is to phase new things into my lifestyle by moving them up to the higher priority, while I maintain the ones I've already established. Seriously, I do not feel well established in either one of these. And I know for sure I will be finishing NROLFW this time around, and starting a new program. Probably P90x... so I can't be specific in my goal with what program I will use.
If those are acceptable, great. If you have other ideas that may spur my inspiration, I am open to suggestion... lol.
Have a healthgain day, everyone!
~Julie
PS - Thanks for the 10 month congratulatory note, Sara! 10 months is a lot shorther than I ever recall! But ohhh how far I have travelled during that short time. Thanks to you, and to everyone else for your encouragement, inspiration, and your honesty! You are each a blessing, and very much a part of my daily life. There's no way I would have ever arrived at a 10 month milestone without this group.
cawilder - Where do you live? One of my daughters lives in Nehalem, Oregon. Last winter when we were in Oregon, we walked part of the coast trail that runs up to Tillamook. There is a wild beauty to that area. Good for you trail runs and road running. Trail running racing is getting popular in Japan now. I jog on the trails here sometimes, but it is really hazardous with all the roots and rocks and slippery muddy places.
Denise - your goals sound perfect. Time to devote quality time to yourself and coming baby!
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