Wagon Jumpers - June 22 - July 5th, 2008 (two week special!)
THIS THREAD HAS BEEN EDITED FOR WEEK 2 RESPONDENTS
Welcome to the Wagon Jumpers weekly thread. We are a group of CC members who have identified that one of our main challenges with achieving our weight loss, maintenance or general health goals is consistency.
This thread is designed to encourage long term commitment to our goals by publicly declaring them and asking the other members of this thread to hold us accountable.
Each member on this thread (listed below) has agreed to check into the thread at least once per week. If any member does not check in by the end of the week, we ask all members to politely and positively PM that member and encourage them to make a post and stay on track (or get back on track).
If you would like to be a member of this thread, either leave a note here and I will add you, or send me a PM.
What Are The Numbers Beside The Names?
As our group is getting larger it is becoming more difficult to stay on top of 2 day and MIA reminders for members. While this is not a challenge, and not a competition, the numbers are here to encourage members to stay active in the program by identifying and rewarding those who are most active in the program.
Name - (Rem #/#, %; MIA #/#, %)
REM = Reminder (2 day reminder sent out on Thursday's)
#/# is how many reminders were needed out of how many weeks the person has participated.
% - is what percentage of time has the person been able to actively participate in the program unassisted by reminders.
MIA - is Missing In Action, you end up on the MIA list if you do not post Sunday - Saturday of a given week.
#/# - is how many weeks has the person been on the MIA list of the weeks participated.
% - is how much of the program has the person been active in.
In other words, your goal is to keep your numbers as low as possible and your percentages as high as possible. The way to do this is to make sure you post as early as you can in the week.
Wagon Jumpers Participants
Week 8 Riders - Congratulations on 2 Months!:
Supersized (myself) - (Rem 0/9, 100%; MIA 0/8, 100%)
Jane3001 - (Rem 3/9, 67%; MIA 0/8, 100%)
JCR - (Rem 1/9, 89%, MIA 0/8, 100%) - Traveling July to July 12th, 2008
Karenie - (Rem 2/9, 78%; MIA 0/8 100%) - Bad weather may not be able to post
Kaydeefalls - (Rem 1/9, 89%; MIA 0/8, 100%) - Traveling to July 25th, 2008
Vicki8seekers - (Rem 0/9, 100%; MIA 0/8, 100%) Traveling to July 7th, 2008
FantasyFlight - (Rem 6/9, 33%; MIA 0/8, 100%)
Got2getthin - (Rem 2/9, 78%; MIA 0/8, 100%)
Week 7 Riders:
Kreitter - (Rem 4/9, 56%; MIA 1/8, 87%)
Hopeful31 - (Rem 4/8, 50%; MIA 0/7, 100%)
Defrog3 - (Rem 0/8, 100%; MIA 0/7, 100%)
Week 6 Riders:
Thin27 - (Rem 7/9, 22%; MIA 2/8, 75%)
Healthfirst - (Rem 4/8, 50%; MIA 1/7, 86%)
Rwbsmom - (Rem 3/8, 62%; MIA 1/7, 86%) - travelling July 13 - August 16, 2008
Igrratu - (Rem 5/8, 37%; MIA 1/7, 86%)
Jburgin - (Rem 4/9, 56%; MIA 2/8, 75%)
Week 5 Riders:
Writestuff - (Rem 4/8, 50%; MIA 2/7, 71%) - Iowa, sever weather, may not be able to post
Sarah_11235 - (Rem 2/6, 67%; MIA 0/5, 100%)
Peera - (Rem 1/6, 83%; MIA 0/5, 100%)
Ser25 - (Rem 3/6, 50%; MIA 0/5, 100%)
Ld1984 - (Rem 2/6, 67%; MIA 0/5, 100%)
Lumcti - (Rem 1/6, 83%; MIA 0/5, 100%)
Week 4 Riders - Congratulations on 1 month!:
Madikim - (Rem 6/6, 0%; MIA 1/5, 80%)
Wenchi58 - (Rem 4/5, 20%; MIA 0/4, 100%)
Msmeg1984 - (Rem 0/5, 100%; MIA 0/4, 100%)
The_Vitamin_Dominatrix - (Rem 2/5, 60%; MIA 0/4, 100%)
Week 3 Riders:
Jopi - (Rem 5/5, 0%; MIA 1/4, 75%)
Kroszelle - (Rem 4/5, 20%; MIA 1/4, 75%)
Hurley_Mom - (Rem 1/4, 75%; MIA 0/3, 100%)
Ciosa1020 - (Rem 2/4, 50%; MIA 0/3, 100%)
Week 2 Riders:
Elaughter - (Rem 1/3, 67%; MIA 0/2, 100%)
Shannyshan - (Rem 3/3, 0%; MIA 0/2, 100%)
Ka2007 - (Rem 2/3, 33%; MIA 0/2, 100%)
Tiegurl - (Rem 0/3, 100%; MIA 0/2, 100%)
Week 1 Riders:
Deedee1 - (Rem 2/3, 33%; MIA 1/2, 50%)
M_saluone - (Rem 1/2, 50%; MIA 0/1, 100%)
Unlimitedana - (Rem 0/2, 100%; MIA 0/1, 100%)
Inshapemommy - (Rem 0/2, 100%; MIA 0/1, 100%)
SkinnybyJune9th - (Rem 1/2, 50%; MIA 0/1, 100%)
Platypipearson - (Rem 1/2, 50%; MIA 0/1, 100%)
Lilley1199 - (Rem 1/2, 50%; MIA 0/1, 100%)
Raven21 - (Rem 0/2, 100%; MIA 0/1, 100%)
Jilly_Bean - (Rem 1/2, 50%; MIA 0/1, 100%)
KittyKat596 - (Rem 0/2, 100%; MIA 0/1, 100%)
New:
Justjess_1 - (Rem 0/1, 100%; MIA n/a)
Missing In Action
Newsjunkie1 - (Rem 6/9, 33%; MIA 3/8, 62%)
Marlasinger - (Rem 6/8, 25%; MIA 3/7, 57%)
Tntgal - (Rem 2/3, 33%; MIA 1/2, 50%)
Missing In Action - 1 Week:
Tally-Ho - (Rem 5/9, 45%; MIA 3/8, 67%)
Mpscarlet - (Rem 6/7, 14%; MIA 3/6, 50%)
Hannahrifka - (Rem 4/4, 0%; MIA 2/4, 50%)
Missing In Action - 2 Weeks:
Gettinghealthy123 - (Rem 5/8, 37%; MIA 3/7, 57%)
Previous Threads:
Wagon Jumpers June 15-21, 2008
Wagon Jumpers May 25 - 31, 2008
Wagon Jumpers May 18 - 24, 2008
Wagon Jumpers Week 1 (May 4 - 10)
Wagon Jumpers - Anyone Need a Lift? (initial thread)
As always all members are encouraged to tag this thread so that it is easy to find.
I'm on vacation and this is the hardest time to stay focused for me. An ice cream here, a bite (or two or three) of dessert there, trying a new menu item and/or recipe - pretty soon I'm completely off the wagon.
Guess I'm a little discouraged this morning. But I refuse to give up completely. So here's to a new day with better choices. **** toasts with coffee mug**** It sure helps to know there are others out there struggling along with me. Thanks for the accountability, Group!
Before I get to the topic, let me give a little intro, this is my first time posting here.
My name is Jenny, I have a ton of weight to loose but I really want to do it this time. I know that takes tanacity, so that's why I'm here. Thank you all for the accountability!
I weigh in on Tuesdays, today I was 5 lbs. down from last week. (I am thowing myself a little party here all by myself own right now!!!) I think I am in my sixth or seventh week of this new way of eating and I found CC plus shortly after that. Love it - especially the tool bar. I can look at it all day and see that I've lost 23 lbs. Yahoo!
Slip ups - For me, it is best to stay away from sugar or white flour. When I don't eat these two things, slip ups don't really happen. I allow myself a 200 calorie leeway, if I am really hungry in the evening, I just eat a little something extra and don't call it a problem. I've been on a million diets and so many times I have just given up when I had a bad day. But those bad days turned in to bad weeks, bad years, really a bad life. I don't want to be there anymore so I am avoiding those things that put me on the down hill slide of that slippery slope.
Anyway, thanks again everyone, I look forward to the journey with you.
Jenny
Update on Me I made it to the gym at 6:30 am this morning. Yay! I need to do that tomorrow through Friday as well. I ate too much on Sunday and am now trying to eat under my average goal (1900/day) for a few days to bring the average down. I have date with toxic friend today, really this is the last chance thing, to see if we can just hang out just us or if from here on out it's civility at group functions.
Accountability on Thread So I don't want to single anyone out, but I figure I'm in a place where I need to ask for some help managing this group. I know that some people on the group are struggling just to meet the one post per week requirement. Others are meeting that obligation but are finding it overwhelming to read the thread, so they simply post about themselves and then leave the group till the next week. Others manage to post the once per week and pick up some conversation with other members but I know that very few (and thank you to those of you who I know are carrying this end) are holding up the other point of the group to e-mail those who are falling off. I try to do this every week and have been successful so far, but I'm concerned that with the busy summer ahead that I may not be able to do it all myself.... so... and I'm a bit concerned that if I don't there is no officially back up person to catch the slack.
I'm looking for an assistant organizer There's really a lot of benefits to taking some more accountability in the group. The best thing for me about being the organizer is that I really do feel accountable and like I will let a bunch of people down if I can't keep it going which is an incredible motivating force to step up an keep going. There is also a lot of satisfaction in helping to build something that benefits a community.
Basically what I would need from an Assistant organizer is someone who has been with the group for lets say at least 3 weeks. The AO and I would split contacting people for 2 days left notices and MIA notices. I would also ask the AO to help with weekly topic ideas, and promoting discussion on the thread.
jcr keep your head in the game! LOL I know about mornings like those!
I think slip ups has such a negative connotation that we can do nothing BUT feel bad/guilty for it! If instead of calling it a slip up we called it 'giving extra leeway' for the day, it might change our thinking about it. ? who knows!
Well, I've been SUPER busy...moving, unpacking, working. So my workouts havn't been much, but eating has been ok, and I've been very active. I've been logging, and I'm doing ok!
This will have to be my check in for next week too! I will be on vacation in Vegas, leaving Thurs and won't be back at a computer until 7/7. Good luck everyone!
m_saluone Welcome to the group! I am a big believer in the slow and steady wins the race mentality. I think it's a much harder line to tow, but in the end I think (or I hope) it will be more rewarding with longer lasting results, both physically, mentally and emotionally.
peera How is the renewal week going?
kaydeefalls I'll second the "moving sucks" sentiment, in that situation I think aiming for maintenance is the ideal. Don't worry there are no calories when you are travelling 
Skinnybyjune9th Welcome to the group!
platypipearson Welcome to the group!
tiegurlHalf is half way there (how is that for a cliche?) however true. How is it going this week?
Lilley1199 Welcome to the group!
JCR I also have a lot of problems with the vacation time, that is my challenge these three weeks, I had the cottage last week, camping this week and white water rafting next week, all pre-packed meals that I make so I can do well, but lots of snacks others bring and I loose control.
inshapemommy Welcome to the group! I'm also in this for the long haul, my heaviest weight that I recorded was 205 lbs and I figure I was 20 lbs above that when I started this time, I'm working on consistency before I let myself see the scale, but I'm fairly confident that at this point I can begin to say it is working.
Vicki8seeker Have LOTS of fun in Vegas! You'll be missed.
I just want to share quickly how happy I was today when I realized that the pants that were loose alone and fit okayish with a shirt tucked in were loose today with the shirt tucked in! :) Not bringing too many snacks to work, and eating a Smart Ones for a meal at work is working pretty well :)
May I please join you all? This thread totally speaks to me and where I am in my weight loss journey right now.
I got serious and took control of my health beginning in February, 2006. I really hit it hard, cleaned up my eating and began working out hard. I lost almost 70 lbs that year. My first "fall from the wagon" occurred over the holidays at the end of that year. I haven't been able to get back in the groove ever since, and I have at least another 70 lbs to lose. (I have slowly gained approx 25 lbs back.) Consistency is a HUGE problem for me now. And I need some accountability.
My goals are to:
1.) Weigh tomorrow morning. No fear, no excuses. Too bad that I had a very salty snack this evening. I need to face the truth tomorrow to know where I am again.
2.) Log my food -- all of it, no matter what -- beginning tomorrow, every single day.
3.) Work exercise back into my daily routine. I am nursing a sprained ankle right now, but it is going on week #4 and I know I could be doing more on it than I have been. The treadmill is getting dusty. I will exercise 2 of the remaining 3 weekdays this week.
What a wonderful and inspiring thread . . . I look forward to getting to know all of you and hopefully helping keep us each firmly planted ON the wagon for this journey. Thanks, again.
Jill
I'd like to join! I think if I have some involvement with other members I will be more likely to stick to my goals:
Get to the gym/work out at least 4 times during the week(got two days down so far)
Log my meals to keep track
Stop snacking out of boredom! That is definitely my weakness.
Make better choices if I go out to eat over the weekend with my boyfriend.
kittykat, I also snack out of boredom.
Apparently boredom usually kicks me up to eat more and more. I know I need to get to do something, but I don't know what yet. Maybe I'll take knitting classes or something to keep my hands busy and my mouth shut.
fantasyflight congrats on the loose pants!
jill, I'm glad you're commited to weight yourself tomorrow. You sound pretty determined!
Peera -- Congrats on the skirt fitting!
Unlimiteddana -- I took up knitting a couple of years ago, both for the relaxation and to keep my hands busy while in front of the tv. I love it. Thanks for the welcome.
Well, I weighed this morning. :sigh: Not good. Up 5 lbs from the number that sent me into this tirade in the first place . . . funny how that number was so bad a little over a week ago . . . now it is a goal again. blah.
Off to have some melon for breakfast . . . and then log it.
I made it to the gym today, I really really really didn't want to go. I'm getting pretty good at trying to think of every possible reason not to have to get up in the morning and countering with every reason why if I do not get up in the morning that I will not have time to work out later so I better get my butt out of bed. I keep hearing this will get easier but I'd like to know when.
I've been at this 18 weeks now, and although I'm still avoiding the scale there are some positive signs. I went cottaging with the girls this past weekend and I saw some of the pictures, they are not pretty I still have a LONG way to go. So I was a little down and it's really hard to get out of bed when I'm feeling like there aren't any results.
Then I reminded myself that I'm fairly sure that I gained quite a bit of weight between last summer and this winter. The pictures I saw of myself that I am not happy about look like the pictures from last summer that I was not happy about. If I really think about it I can see the weight coming off in my face. I've been wearing a sweater to the gym in the mornings that is fitting loosely and in the winter I had stopped wearing it because it was too tight and showed my gut (including belly button) too much and I now NEED a belt for both of my "fat" jeans and I've moved from hole 2 to hole 4 on the belt.
Okay, so I look like a fat blob IMO in the cottage pictures and that sucks. But I was definitely in a worse place in the winter (and did not allow any pictures as evidence of that) and I'm making improvements.
If I don't want the pictures from next summer to look like this summer and last summer then I just need to suck it up this summer and keep going, because it is working and falling off the wagon now will only have me writing this same damned entry a year from now.
FantasyFlight I love the clothes fitting better feeling. Really it's better than any number on a scale in my books. Congratulations!
Jilly_bean Welcome to the group! First congratulations on the 70lb loss, that is huge motivation to know that if you put your mind to it you can achieve it. Some thoughts for you on your goals as someone who is also in it for the long haul. In the earlier threads we talked a lot about how to pace and manage consistency. One thing that we identified early on was this "get up and go" and "all or nothing" mentality. While most of us who struggle with consistency know very well what we have to do to loose the weight and we're spectacular planners, and we often get the "I'm gonna do this! get up and go!" spirit we turn out to be sprinters rather than marathon runners and this is where the problem lies.
I may be wrong here but in your goals the only re-think I would put to you is are you sprinting to an all or nothing mentality? Your goals are good and achievable, but since this is a thread about consistency and not "how to loose weight" I'll challenge you to answer how you will motivate yourself to be consistent in those goals. Mainly I don't want to see you do really well for 2 weeks - 3 months and then have a bad week and bin it all in because you failed on your "ever single day" logging or the scale was not kind.
Kittykat596 Welcome to the group as well! Much like I mentioned to Jilly_Bean when the issue is consistency and not "how to" weight loss in general while goals are good and in fact necessary I would challenge you to think not only about your goals or tactics for weight loss, but also your "how to's" for achieving your goals long term. How are you going to make sure you exercise, log your meals and stop snacking out of boredom long term?
unlimitedana Not sure where you live Dana (I'm assuming your name is Dana), here in TO knitting has really caught on. We have our local knitting store and every evening they either have classes or "Stitch n' Bitch" socials. So you keep your hands busy, but you don't keep your mouth shut, just busy chatting with the gals.
Peera Restaurant? Are you opening a restaurant?
Hello everyone, checking in for the 6/22 - 6/28 week.
Hi Writestuff, sorry for all that you and your neighbors are going through right now.
I've been keeping to my goals. I'm not losing as quickly as I did during the first few weeks of dieting and exercising, but I expected this. I'm doing at least 1/2 hour of cardio 6 mornings out of 7 and most days I'm doing another 1/2 hour in the evening. I'm staying below 1500 calories every day.
For the week's topic, how do you forgive yourself/comeback from a slip? I really don't know. I'm on this thread because I've been on diets before and slipped, and my slips turned into falls. I think Supersized made an important comment about not letting a slip in behavior go past a week. I think I can handle one day of going back to my old eating habits, but if I let it go a couple of days then it's over. So I guess admitting that you made a mistake right away and doing something (I don't know what) to snap out of it and get back on track is important.
supersized, my name is actually ana. I think I'll buy a mag to learn how to knit. There are some courses in my area but I have a crazy schedule.
Jill, the important thing is to keep on track. Weight numbers are usually hard on me too. I'm losing weight slowly (a pound per week), but I'm determined to lose it all.
peera congrats on fitting on that skirt.
I've just had a chocolate yoghurt for breakfast. It was great. Yesterday I had this teeny itty bitty piece of dark chocolate. I've been craving for the stuff for a long time and yesterday was low in cals so I guessed I could have some.
Exercise this week is almost impossible. I walked yesterday for one hour but today I feel just tired. I think I'll take a one-day break from exercising. Maybe that's what I need.
Supersize -- First, CONGRATS on the loosening clothing!! That is the best indicator of all. Way to go!
Second, you sure pegged me, didn't you. I AM an all-or-nothing kind of person. Pathological perfectionism. I am working on this. My "every single day" pledge of logging, I thought, was actually an effort to combat this inasmuch as I had only been logging the "good/perfect" days. I am now committing to logging each day, good or not. But I see now that could be a set up for failure, too. What to do?
I also find that when I log my food, it is rarely as bad as I think it is. I tend to assume I have overeaten when, in fact, I haven't. Logging "incessantly" actually keeps me from brow-beating myself needlessly. Does that make sense?
Anyway, please continue to call me on this all-or-nothing trap if you see me doing it.
lumcti -- Good going, staying on track with your goals. I like your analogy of making a "slip" into a fall. That's me. I need to stop the slide sooner.
Ana -- Good luck with the knitting. I just love it. I've actually thought about starting some sort of "weight loss" blanket . . . maybe knitting a square for every 5 lbs lost or something, so that when I feel like I just haven't gotten anywhere, I can pull that work-in-progress out and SEE the progress and wrap myself in it.
Have a good day, all.
These Weeks Topics
How to forgive yourself for slip ups? Lets expect that there will be a few over our collective long weekends and figure out how best we can plan and how we can get over it if we do go off plan and not let it derail us
This is my check in. For the most part I am doing everything I said I would. I have been working out about 6 times a week and doing my best to eat right, but I am pretty upset because, I GAINED 2 pounds instead of losing. I am pretty discouraged right now,but I'm not gonna give up.
As for the topic, everytime I slip up...I just start fresh the next day. If there are continuous slip ups, I make myself sit and take note of what is happening at the time and how to get it under control.
HAve a great week everyone!
Hello all,
Another really exciting week for everyone!
Writestuff: We'll be thinking of you and all who are affected by the flood. Sending lots of good thoughts and prayers that this will soon be over. i can't imagine how you are even thinking about eating right/logging calories with all that going on.
FantasyFlight- Way to go on clothes fitting better. That is how I gauge my success more than a number on the scale.
Welcome to all the new folks - we continue to add to our diverse group.
As for me - What do I do when I slip up? Hmmm - I had been tending toward the all or nothing mentality a few months ago. ie... Well- since I had 1 cookie I might as well eat the box. But I"m better about this now. I seem to be better able to have just a little of something and move on or if I don't move on and eat like 5 servings of sour gummi worms (ok - I did this Saturday on the way home from the grocery store) then I didn't have dinner because I used my calories already and that was ok.
So far I'm on track this week to be at the gym for 4 days an 1 hour each day. My calories have been pretty consistent about 1300 which is good. Scale is moving slowly down - I've lost about 2 lbs since last week.
Still looking or Assistant Organizer volunteer see post 23 on this thread.
I'm going to try really hard to get the 2 day reminders out tomorrow for those that have not yet posted. For those who have (or do before tomorrow morning) I am so appreciative.
Tomorrow is looking crazy busy with all the buying and cooking for camping. I have no idea how I'm going to get it all done.
Lumcti I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who has to put a time limit on how long I can fall off for.
ana That's the great thing about the stitch n' bitch, it's totally come on the night of, no requirements to go on a regular schedule.
jilly_bean Don't worry there are a lot of us here that do the all or nothing. I think the trick is to try to log all your food everyday, but not to make it so concrete as "I must log everyday" because that must and will are often the difference between forgiving yourself or not.
hurley_mom Is this the first you've been back to exercising in a while? If so definitely don't worry about the 2lbs at first there's all these crazy ups and downs between water weight loss and muscle gain.
Kreitter Congratulations on putting down the cookie box!
Thank you, Supersized. Sorry about sounding so negative. I was just expecting more. It's nice to not be in this alone and you're right.....this is my first time working out in YEARS. So, I'll be patient...atleast, I'll try to be patient. LOL!! 
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