Wagon Jumpers - May 10 - 16th, 2009 (Closed, Waiting List Available)
Welcome
(If you are interested in being on the waiting list, please read below and e-mail me. We currently have a waiting list of 1 people.)
Welcome to the Wagon Jumpers weekly thread. We are a group of CC members who have identified that one of our main challenges with achieving our weight loss, maintenance or general health goals is consistency.
This thread is designed to encourage long term commitment to our goals by publicly declaring them and asking the other members of this thread to hold us accountable. The primary focus of wagon jumpers is not how much weight you have lost, or need to loose, but what you need to do on a daily basis to meet your long term goals.
There are two rules for Wagon Jumpers:
1. All members must post once per week between Sunday and Friday.
2. All members must check the thread for members who have not posted by Saturday (a short list is posted on Thursday) or are on the MIA list on Sunday and send them a polite and positive message to stay involved in the group and on track with their goals.
If you would like to be a member of this thread please see the guidelines below and send me a PM if you are still interested (there may be a waiting list).
Medium Size Group = Some Time Commitment
The original idea of Wagon Jumpers was to create a close community where participants could get to know each other and hopefully form virtual-life and perhaps even physical-life bonds to create a support network as they attempted long term weight loss.
We quickly discovered that this was impossible with an 'always open' group as there were too many people coming and going. For this reason the group is finding its optimum level is between 20 and 25 participants.
A medium sized group means that we have an active thread that produces between 40 - 60 posts per week. Members do not need to read / respond to every post every week. I do notice that those who respond regularly do tend to keep their goals top of mind, and have a better chance to achieve them. I estimate the average time spent by an active member on Wagon Jumpers to be between 1-2 hours per week.
If you are looking for an always open group on CC there are several that operate by different weight criteria, similar motivational patterns etc... There are also many small groups that cap their numbers between 4-10 people to keep the group more intimate, and easier for members to keep up with.
Interested in Joining?
General Guidelines for Joining
1. Are you a wagon jumper?
Do you know how to loose weight, you often have success but then you find yourself loosing interest in your plan, or sabotaging your plan. It's not the "how" to loose weight that is the problem, it's the "how" to stay motivated.
2. Do you have a long way to go?
This group is designed so that members can get to know each other and support each other. Ideally you are planning to be a CC member and part of this forum for at least 6 months or more to achieve your goals and hopefully stay in motivation for a further 6 months or more.
Yes. This is, a long term plan.
3. Do you have the time?
This is a medium sized group, the thread does move fairly quickly each week. If you do not have regular internet access this is likely not the group for you.
Still interested?
Send Supersized a PM. (Please do not reply on the thread)
An overview will be sent to you, you will have a chance to ask questions and an invitation will be sent to you once a spot is open.
Google Group
We have recently added a google group as an option for members, past members, and members on the waiting list. If you would like access to the google group (and are in one of the above categories) send a message to beaglesmuggler (at) roger.com with your username and e-mail address and I will add you to the google group.
Wagon Jumpers Participants
Year 1 - Week 1 Riders:
Supersized 
(myself)
Week 49 Riders:
Week 45 Riders:
Wenchie58 - extended sick leave
Week 43 Riders:
Week 42 Riders:
Week 39 Riders:
Week 36 Riders - Congratulations on 9 Months!:
Week 33 Riders:
Week 29 Riders:
Week 26 Riders:
Week 25 Riders:
Week 24 Riders - Congratulations on 6 Months!:
Week 23 Riders:
Week 22 Riders:
Week 21 Riders:
Week 19 Riders:
Week 6 Riders:
NEW:
Missing In Action:
Missing In Action - 1 Week:
Missing In Action - 2 Weeks:
Current Membership: 21
Current Waiting List: 1
Outstanding Wait List Invites: 1
12 Week CONSISTENCY GOALS
(as set w/o April 5th, 2009)
By June 27th, I will be...
Msmeg1984 - Maintenance: I will continue to eat less than 1800 cals/day on average New: Exercise at least 3x a week at least 9 of the 12 weeks.
Defrog3 - To continue eating healthfully for me and my little fetus, which means I need to stick to 2,000 balanced calories/day. My NEW goal is to start exercising regularly, meaning moving my butt in some fashion for 30 minutes, 3 days a week.
Cawilder - NEW: Attain a 30 / 30 / 40 food combo 80% of the time. MAINTENANCE: Running @ least 5 hours / week and 2X weight lifting.
Unlimitedana - Maintenance goal: Eat 1550-1650 cals a day. New Goal Achieve the 40-40-20 at least two days per week.
Raven21 - 1. Exercise at least 3 x a week (maintenance) 2. Average daily calorie intake of 1450-1650 (new)
Figurethefat - For maintenance: I will continue to complete a minimum of 1,500 exercise minutes per month. New goal: I will drink at least 1.5 litres of water per day.
Supersized - MAINTENANCE: Continue to eat at or below 2,000 cal/day average for at least 6 of 12 weeks, and never over 2,500 cal/day average. NEW: start going to the gym (again), and achieve at least 4 weeks where I attend the gym 3x/week.
Lam7 - NEW GOAL: Participate in our Navan Walking Club 10 Week Program (Tuesdays) starting April 21-June 26; as well as attend 6 "Spring into Spring" Interval Classes which will run on Thursday evenings starting April 9th, 2009.
Constanza - (new) Eat an average of 1700 calories/day. (maintenance) Exercise at least twice weekly (calculated by average)
Thesilverstar121 - Excercising at least 3x a week.
Kyashiis - Maintenance goal:Exercise for a minimum of 20 minutes a day 5 days a week. New goal: I will zig-zag on my food intake consistently throughout the week and end up with an average daily calorie count of 1,200 cals.
Nannygabber - Maintenance goal of doing NROLFW 3x per week with an allowance of two weeks slack for this 12-week session.
Pelkeyjm - Maintenance: Exercise a minimum of 30 minutes at least 3x per week. New Goal: Log ALL food on calorie count.
The_Vitamin_Dominatrix - Maintenance goal - I will continue to eat 1400-1500 calories daily with a ratio of 15% fat, 25% protein, 60% carbohydrates. New goal - Gym or no gym, I will workout 3 to 4 times a week.
Previous Threads:
Wagon Jumpers - May 3 - 9th, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - April 26 - May 2nd, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - April 19 - 25th, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - April 12 - 18th, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - April 5 - April 11th, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - March 29 - April 4th, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - March 22 - 28th, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - March 15 - 21st, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - March 8 - 14th, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - March 1 - 7th, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - February 22 - 28th, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - February 15 - 21st, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - February 8 - 14th, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - February 1 - 7th, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - January 25 - 31st, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - January 18 - 24th, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - January 11 - 17th, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - January 4 - 10th, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - December 28 - January 3rd, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - December 21 - 27th, 2008
Wagon Jumpers - December 14 - 20th, 2008
As always all members are encouraged to tag this thread so that it is easy to find.
Welcome to the new members!
I don't have a ton of time to update this week as my mother-in-law is in town and we are busy preparing things for a party this weekend. She'll meet my parents for the first time! Should be fun actually.
As far as eating goes - it's a little hit or miss right now, but I just learned a great lentils recipe that I will have to post here eventually. Exercise is picking up, though.
jessicaann - don't beat yourself up too much! It's a little over your calorie goal, but not the end of the world. A lot of times all we can do is learn from the experience and remember that tomorrow's another day. You'll make some progress!
WEEKLY CHECK-IN
This week was good, I started C25K and it felt great, went better than I thought.
Who do you have in your life who will motivate you to stay active? How do they do it? If you haven't recruited anyone, who could you recruit?
My brother is my inspiration. He started playing basketball in middle school but later changed to soccer. He was actually pretty good and was part of his university's team. Later, he still played on weekends, even waking up at 7 am on Sundays to play. About two years ago, he stopped playing and gained around 20 pounds. He decided to eat healthier and play again. he inspired a couple of cousins and together they were fit within six months. His weight loss actually inspired me to do it myself. He had failed but instead of just complaining about it (like I used to) he just lifted himself up and went on.
Weekly topic
My husband really helps motivate me to stay active and exercise. He wants to start training for a triathlon and has invited me to train with him. We started the running part of it by doing a C25K type of program. He is great at motivating me and still respecting what level of fitness I'm at. He uses positive talk to push me to keep going. My mom is also great 'cause she loves to walk and we can have some great conversations at the same time. They are the 2 most important people in my life and they want me to be healthy, so they are ready to go out and be active with me. Workout DVDs are great for me, it doesn't help me start the workout, but once it's on the encouragements from the trainer are helpful.
Welcome to WJ Dove, your comments will be very much appreciated!
Have a healthgain week all!
Happy Wednesday Everyone!
Weekly Topic:
Well I can echo some of the same statements made by others, such as, this group is a strong motivation, my husband (although most times he just tells me that I am beautiful just as I am and I don't need to lose weight, however he does comment when I am making progress, like yesterday when he told me that I was looking trimer, thought that was sweet). But the person that really kicks my butt is my friend and coworker. We usually take our lunch break at the end of the day (opting to eat at our desk while we're working instead of taking an actual lunch) and work out in the gym here at work. In March she unfortunately was part of company layoffs but was brought back a few weeks ago (just a week before my vacation) due to the fact that workloads had increased A LOT and I was not able to manage on my own which I am very greatful for. So we kick each other in the butt to go to the gym every day, even if one of us isn't really feeling like it.
On another note, I was wondering if anyone else ever experiences headaches after running. I don't get them immediatly after running, more like 3hrs or more later. I don't think it's a hydration issue as I drink a lot of water, I have a snack sometimes after my workout and if not I eat dinner about 2-3 hours after running (it takes 1 hour to get home after work and another 1hr at least before dinner is ready). I've been searching forums trying to find an answer and none seem to fit (i.e all about hydration or running to hard etc). Any suggestions from the runners in the group?
Thanks and have a great day!
Carrie
Bwah!
I just have to vent here for a bit, because I had thought I was doing so well w/my weight gain during this pregnancy. But I got on the scale on Sunday (and yesterday, and today), and three days in the same weight range make it official--I'm up a total of 20 pounds so far, to 215. UGH! I'm only 6 months and one week!
I'm on track to gain a total of 30 pounds, if I keep going at this rate. My original goal was for 15-20 pounds total. I'm disappointed that I've passed it already. I've been eating quite healthfully, keeping to about 2000 calories/day, with lots of fruit, whole grains, lean meat and fish, and lots of water--my only downfall is a 2-3x weekly ice cream bowl. I'm just so frustrated and annoyed!
To be fair, I think the kid has gone through a growth spurt this week. Today's the first day where I've actually felt HEAVY through my middle. But 5 pounds in two weeks (the amount I've gained since 4/30/09) can't be all baby--its supposed to weigh only 1.5 pounds so far!
I have a doctor's appointment tomorrow. I'm going to talk w/him about this, but I'm sure he'll be fine with the way I'm progressing. He has told me before that every woman, every pregnancy is different, and that weight gain is a secondary concern, even if I started out overweight (he's a really cool doctor--very laid back and "let nature take its course" kind of guy...).
Ergh. I can't wait for my town's pool to open up on Memorial Day weekend so I can start going there to swim in the evenings after work...
Original Post by raven21:
On another note, I was wondering if anyone else ever experiences headaches after running. I don't get them immediatly after running, more like 3hrs or more later. I don't think it's a hydration issue as I drink a lot of water, I have a snack sometimes after my workout and if not I eat dinner about 2-3 hours after running (it takes 1 hour to get home after work and another 1hr at least before dinner is ready). I've been searching forums trying to find an answer and none seem to fit (i.e all about hydration or running to hard etc). Any suggestions from the runners in the group?
Thanks and have a great day!
Carrie
Carrie,
Hydration is a funny thing. Most people think it is what you drink right before you exercise or what you drink after, but in truth it is what you drink 24 hours before and continually drink. I would suspect that it is hydration and you need to kick up your fluids all around the clock and then after you stop running. I do get headaches and generally it is due to lack of adquate water. It is suggested to have a higher protein / carb snack after running within 30 mins to aid recovery. I have a whole wheat mini-bagel with turkey on it and i put a few bread and butter pickle slices on it. Some people like lowfat chocolate milk.
I try to drink about 2.5L of water per day - I also really like Smart Water and you know I really don't know why but it does seem to taste better. Go figure. I can't afford to drink it all the time though!!
Good luck.
Carol
I made it to the gym again this morning and did my HIIT workout, definitely much easier to split them up if I can find the time and motivation to go more regularly. I also did a ridiculous amount of walking today.
I finally got a family doctor. A friend referred me last week. I haven't had a family doctor in over 18 years. Anyways, they did some blood work, and I got a call today saying that I need to make and appointment to discuss my blood work. Now I'm completely stressed out, did a condom break when I was a teenager/early 20's and now I have HIV/AIDS? Have I given it to my partner without knowing? Can they diagnose cancer with a blood test? Do I have diabetes? Do they call people to discuss blood work when it's not bad news? I generally feel healthy and now I'm totally freaked out. Sort of regretting getting the family doctor now.
DeFrog - not that I'm the person who should be passing on medical advice (see paranoia freak out above) but my cousin who is at the same stage as you, and who is a public nurse, says every pregnancy gains weight differently. Keep reminding yourself there is no exact set path.
Cheers,
Sara.
I'm here!
Hi all! Haven't gotten my thoughts together to post yet this wek, but I'm following along. Will have a moment to post in the next day. :)
ahhh....a much better day today. I went to the gym(2 classes) and have eaten 200 under my calorie goal! Yay!
Sara,
Don't freak out - I know you live in Canada and it may be different but here in the US they always call you in to discuss your bloodwork if you are a new patient because there is always something a bit askew so don't freak out.
And you know what always helps me is that I don't have control over what is the issue as it has already happened but I do have control over my reaction to it. What's done is done... I don't know if that will help but if I saw it all with deep cleansing breaths then it seems to help me.
Good Luck.
Defrog - Hm, I thought 30lbs was normal to gain during pregnancy?? I've never had a kid but I guess I thought that was what you sort of "shot" for. In any event, you'll get it off after the munchie is out of ya!
unlimitedana - I just started c25k too! Well sort of...I did it last year, didn't love it, but I don't care so much this time about the 5k part as I do about the good interval training you get with it. My first run was Tuesday, but last week I started NROLFW and did that WF, and then again this week MW and will do it tmw...this morning I woke up with some serious and wonderful soreness in my back from the deadlift and lat pulldown, which OMG I LOVE (crazy...loving pain) and decided that the running is secondary to the lifting, and I should only run of "rest" days if I'm feeling really good.
Issue! So when I post to the group I thought that sort of "subscribed" me and then when someone else posted I'd get a fancy emaill from CC saying "So and So has responded to a post on WJ!" but I'm not getting that, so I'm not remembering to check in. I get the fancy emails on other "threads" i'm on, just not this one. Thoughts?
Carol,
You know, hydration was the first thing that came to mind and is always the first thing I address, however I have been drinking 3-4 litres of water daily for the past 4 weeks. I also space it through the day so I'm not drinking more either before or after my run. Since I think I'm getting enough water I'm going to try eating something with protein and carbs around 30 mins after my run, instead of waiting until I get home and cook supper which is usually about 2hrs after my run and see how that helps.
What's Smart Water? I don't know if I've ever seen it. There are at on of vitamin waters and flavored waters here in Canada but I don't think I've seen the smart water, sounds interesting.
Sara - don't worry unnecessarily, it's probably just standard practice like Carol said, you're a new patient afterall. Congrats on getting to the gym for HIIT training. I really enjoy it as well and I find that it's a great way to end my NROLFW workout. I just realized that I forgot my workout pants today so I guess there's no running for me today unless I can get to a store to buy a new pair 
, I really need to start packing my bag the night before.
defrog - don't worry about the extra weight, like everyone else has said, every pregnancy is different and you'll lose it and then some after the baby is born and you can get back to exercising regularly and eating for one
jessica - congrats! see, one day over and the next day under, great job!
dovelette - interval training is awesome and soooo good for you. I know, it's funny to actually feel good about the aches and pains but I think it's the sense of accomplishment that is the root of it. I'm not sure what you mean by the "fancy emails", the only time I get emails from cc is if someone messages me directly or one of the many emails about succesful weightloss journeys and other fitness and health emails.
Well I must go heat up my oatmeal for breakfast. Have a great day everyone. I'm going to try, even though I'm seriously disappointed about not being able to get in my run today.
Carrie
Dove To get the e-mails when you post a reply to the group you will see just above the orange buttons "post reply" and "preview" a little ticky box for Email Notification, make sure that the box is checked. If you've tried that and you are still not getting the e-mails I'd write in on the CC thread. I've noticed that there are a lot of little glitches going on in the last month with the discussion forums. I've had a lot of issues with spacing, random text becoming bold and some such things. They maybe just need to be made aware of the problem.
Thanks all for the "don't freak out about the doctor", just can't help it, trying to work though it, working out helps.
I made it to the gym again today Carrie I've actually split off my NROLFW and HIIT workouts into separate days so that I'm doing HIIT on my rest days from lifting. I tried doing the two together but NROLFW is kicking my butt, and after two weekends of barely being able to move without screaming, I declared it over doing it and now just do one or the other. For others who are beginning, I'd suggest the same, although I do hope to work my way back up to being able to do them together.
Gotcha...trying this again, ignore this post!
TWO DAY REMINDERS
Hello everyone, it's that time in the week again, here are our members who have not yet posted this week. Please watch for them to post today or tomorrow, if they have not posted by Saturday or are on the MIA list on Sunday please send them a polite and positive reminder to stay on track with their goals and involved with the group.
Missing In Action:
Missing In Action - 1 Week:
Group Size Okay I know I know I know I promised, but trying to be fair to everyone sometimes has it's draw backs. The intention of this week was to see how the group got on at 21 active members (or 22 members including Vicki on sick leave). I put out the invitation at the beginning of the week and for some reason CC didn't deliver it to Jadedonkkkey, so when I sent her the "sorry we've moved on" e-mail she let me know that she didn't receive it, so we are possibly going up to 22 active members plus Vicki, if either Jaddedonkkey or Bwg514 don't reply I will not move up another person on the wait list until we've tested 21 active members.
Anyone out there???? Very quiet on Wagon Jumpers today.....
I'm out here :) Feeling a little "low" today...I've been doing very well with my weight loss, but now I'm doing things that I KNOW are GOOD for me, but that show gain on the scale. For example, I made some flax seed crackers and ate a few, and they have tons of fiber and now I'm bloated lol. And I just finished the second week of NROLFW, and started the C25k, so I know that 1) my muscles will hold onto water for a while, and 2) since my body fat is so high (30%) I'll probably both lose fat and build muscle at first, which could show weight gain. And yep I'm up 2lbs on the scale today. Surface level I 100% know this is not real weight gain, that it's water. Arg so why won't my intellectual brain tell that to the rest of me lol
I know this isn't a race and I know this is a "for life" thing...but I turn 30 on June 12th and I really really wanted to be further along than I am.
Patience is a virtue that I do not possess!
Dove you and I are in the same boat on the patience thing, the ongoing joke is that my partner is the one with all the patience in the relationship. I have absolutely none. 30% body fat is really not too bad for a woman, our optimum being around 25%, I'm struggling to get down from 45% YIKES!
I'm happy with myself this week. I've made it to the gym a full 3 times, my goal is to have 4 of the 12 weeks with 3 times/week at the gym. I don't feel like I'm going to die this time either. Okay, that's a bit over dramatic, but the last few times I was so cramped up after the gym that I really couldn't move without pain.
I'm still having trouble with my calories, I think I'm going to miss that goal unfortunately. I've been good about keeping it under 2,500/day, but I'm still missing 2,000 cal/day almost every time. But, it's a goal I will try to repeat again, and prepare for achieving by trying to see if I can get at least the last few weeks under 2,000 cal/day.
Sara.
Dove/Sara - ditto I say to patience. I've done great with the gym but I'm not going to make my calorie goal this time around. Sad thing is, I work out 5-6 times a week but don't see dramatic changes in my weight because of the eating part of it, and yet still haven't changed it enough. I went for my first run outside in ages yesterday. It is very different from the treadmill, more enjoyable in a lot of ways but I find it harder to get good oxygen/breathing down compared to the treadmill (probably due to all the wind that was blowing in my face at the time lol). I turn 29 next week and funny how numbers are so important to us, but it's my goal to be at my goal weight by the time I turn 30 next year. With everything that I've learned here I should be able to accomplish that, I guess we'll see in 12 months :)
Dove - I have no idea what my body fat % is, unfortunately I trainer I went to see once didn't have calipers and her scale wasn't working so I am in the dark on that. Like Sara said 30% isn't bad at all. All the things you've been telling yourself about water retention etc is absolutely true, you'll see the difference soon enough.
Sara - congrats on getting to the gym 3 times this week that's awesome! As I said, I'm having the calorie issues too and 1 week of every month is always worse. We'll both get there eventually.
Carrie
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