whoopla on eggs

so are eggs (yolks) safe for Diabetics or people with Heart Disease?  eat them or not?

anyone know?  there are like 99 trillion links on eggs but can't find why some people are now saying the information on eggs has changed. 

they just have high colestrol. have one or two a week or more if your exercising you can counteract the bad bits of them. they are packed with vitamins (b6,b 12, E, D) and are an exalent protein idea and if you just eat the white very low calorie and no saturated fat.

its like most things, Okay in moderation and too high in nutritints to cut out due to a study that 'surgests' not 'proves'

Actually, Bunny1986, it is recommended to not have more than FOUR eggs per week for people with high cholesterol, and 7 a week for people without cholesterol-problems.

I'd imagine it's the same for people with heart disease.. Max four per week.

I oftne just have the whites to avoid the fats in the yolk. With a little fresh basil egg whites scrambled are amazing!

... 7 a week?  Debateable... i would never eat that many. 
You soon would have colestrol problems if you did not before! so 28 eggs a month? no way is that okay. that adds up to 5936mg of colestrol just from the eggs a month.. and the Recommened daily allowance is 300mg a day. Eggs have more than 80% of this..

Eggs may be getting a bad rap for nothing.  It seems that way back in the 1960's, the tests and measuring of cholesterol was way off.  Read this for the full story on egg nutrition!

from an amazing website, The World's Heathiest Foods - Eggs

They have a lot of nutritional value and the jury seems to be out on whether or not they cause high blood cholesterol.  If you cholesterol is low, then go right ahead and enjoy eggs.

the whites are fine to eat as much as you want, its just protein (i eat 3 or 4 dozen a day ><)

3-4 dozen egg whites a day?? is that even possible?

Here's an excerpt from The World's Healthiest Foods article about eggs

"Eggs and Heart Health

In addition to its significant effects on brain function and the nervous system, choline also has an impact on cardiovascular health since it is one of the B vitamins that helps convert homocysteine, a molecule that can damage blood vessels, into other benign substances. Eggs are also a good source of vitamin B12, another B vitamin that is of major importance in the process of converting homocysteine into safe molecules. Eggs are high in cholesterol, and health experts in the past counseled people to therefore avoid this food. (All of the cholesterol in the egg is in the yolk.) However, nutrition experts have now determined people on a low-fat diet can eat one or two eggs a day without measurable changes in their blood cholesterol levels. This information is supported by a statistical analysis of 224 dietary studies carried out over the past 25 years that investigated the relationship between diet and blood cholesterol levels in over 8,000 subjects. What investigators in this study found was that saturated fat in the diet, not dietary cholesterol, is what influences blood cholesterol levels the most."

Based on this, and a talk with my cardiologist, I've started eating 4 to 6 whole eggs a week.

It's actually ok to eat eggs everyday day now, the have good cholesteral which over powers any of its bad points.  Eat away.

wow.  thank you Claire. I just had not been able to resolve that even though I had kept looking.

what God puts together, let no man set assunder.  If you are a woman, you never need to eat an egg ever.  They should be used sparingly, and never seperate foods from themselves.  Foods are assembled in such a way that by eating the whole thing you get all the fiber you need to digest the starches, and all the vitamins you need to digest the minerals and apply them where needed.  But still, though eggs may be packed with protein, but that doesn't make it good for you to eat.

Eggs are high in cholesterol and Saturated fat.  Diabetics need to stay away from fat more so even than sugar.

I was type 2 diabetic, but have put it in full remission.  One law is, no more than 1 egg per month cooked into something, so that I don't even get the whole thing.

Also, read your lables...  don't eat anything with high fructose corn syrup, or partially hydrogenated oils.  They destroy your body systemically.  High fructose corn syrup severly damages your pancrease, and parts of your brain that control your mood...  can even lead to depression.  Hydrogenated oils latch onto your brain just like an omega3 fatty acid, but instead of aiding in synaptal communication, it blocks it...  causing hyperactivity and depression, amonst other things, plus it over taxes your gall bladder and damages your pinial and pituitary glands which control all of your body functions.

You must also be careful not to over do it on protein.  You can not pack on protein, your body will only take so much.  The rest gets filtered out through your kidneys...  one of the main reasons diabetics loose their kidneys.

You must also try to get protein from vegetable matter, ie; beans, pulses, and whole grain.

Another problem with meat/eggs, is that the salt found in them is not good for you either.  Yes, we need salt, but the salt found in animals atrophies your muscles, to include your heart, and constricts the capilaries in the kidneys causing your blood pressure to rise.

Only nutritionists wise in the ways of both eastern and western medicine will have this info for you.

I spent years reserching the disease with the belief in my heart that God gave us everything on this green earth that we need to stay healthy and heal ourselves...  I was right.

And it even says in the bible, " and grain will be as meat to them" speaking of Adam and Eve after being banished from Eden. 

People don't understand... we are not supposed to eat meat regularly.  Our digestive system is too long...  designed for the slow breakdown of grains, fruit and vegetables.  A carnivores digestive system is short and straight, and herbivores intestines are long and winding.  The meat stays in our system too long, goes rancid in our guts and becomes toxic to our system.

Any one who says that eating animal foods is okay for humans, especially diabetics is either misinformed or ignorant.  Meat consumption is the largest cause of the disease in the first place.  Too much saturated fat will cause diabetes to develope in a person that isn't even predisposed to the illness.

If you're going to eat meat... keep it as low on the food chain as possible.  They are more deeply mineralized than higher mammals, and don't tend to carry as much saturated fat or negativly impacting hormones.

Another thing they don't want to tell you about meat/eggs...  they are major causes of melanoma ( a form of tumor).

Am I vegitarian? No.  I eat fish, traif, rabbit, and on special occasions... a chicken, turkey, or steak.  Once in a while won't kill you. 

Oh, and stay the heck away from artificial sweeteners...  you don't even want to know what they do to you and your diabetic condition.

Don't waste your time managing your diabetes...  cure it!  You can!

Good luck... 

Liz,

Sounds like you've read "The China Study" cover to cover. I respect that. I've read the China Study too, but I didn't fully agree with it.

Personally, I agree that for the sake of nutrition, it's better to eat alot of fresh vegetables. Frankly put, you're going to get alot more of your nutritional firepower out of vegetables than any other food.

But I don't buy that egg and meat are truly that bad for you. I eat meat, I exercise and my health is fine. Not only that, but despite my meat-eating ways, my cholesterol is EXTREMELY low. Total Cholesterol about 130. HDL over 40 (which is good for a guy.)

My experience tells me that the problem isn't eating meat, specifically, but lifestyle in total. If you eat eggs or meat, eat lots of whole grains and vegetables, and exercise, you can still be perfectly healthy. I'm proof of that.

Liz, I believe that overconsumption and inactivity are the main causes of my diabetes 2 problem.  I was overconsuming carbohydrates in the form of cereal grains (rice, bread, and breakfast cereal in particular) and milk.  I thought that these were good for me, and avoided fatty foods and a lot of meat.  I created my problem with the best of intentions, but without any portion control.  Whatever you eat, moderation and balanced diet are the key!  A good lesson from Super Size Me: if all you ate was 2 Big Macs a day (no fries, no soda), you would probably be lean and fit - and with no diabetes 2.