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Why I Almost Lost it With Jillian


By +Elisa Zied on Jun 10, 2010 11:00 AM in Dieting & You

Elisa Zied, MS, RD, CDN

It was no big surprise that last week, more than 6 million viewers, hungry for drama, entertainment, and perhaps a little motivation to forever change their food and fitness behaviors, tuned in to watch Losing It With Jillian.  On her new reality show, the famed Biggest Loser trainer Jillian Michaels berates, belittles, breaks down, occasionally consoles, and ultimately builds up overweight and overburdened families. 

The hard core, tough as nails Jillian—part trainer, part life coach—acts as a human “wake up call.”   She moves in with a family that struggles with and is burdened by their weight and other problems that diminish their health and happiness.  During her one-week stay, Jillian’s job is to help the families get to the core of the struggles that prevent them from eating well and maintaining an active lifestyle.  Jillian provides them with the skills, tools, and motivation to help them “transform their lives from the inside out” once and for all.

When the families met Jillian for the first time, it seemed as though they were tremendous fans and had hoped and prayed she would descend upon them to help them out.  But after only a few minutes, Jillian led the families through a grueling workout (especially grueling since exercise was not something most of the family members did with any regularity).  In the first episode, when Agnes Mastropietro, an obese mother of two, pleaded with Jillian and said “I’m trying!”  Jillian quickly retorted with “Don’t try…do!”; she also said “Trying means you’re planning to fail,” “I will ride you all week long,” and “I’m going to be your worst nightmare.”

In the second episode, during their very first workout together, Debra Jones, an obese single mother of two who has type 2 diabetes and whose husband tragically died 6 years ago, told Jillian that she couldn’t breathe. Jillian’s response was “You think I care? What I care about is them,” as she pointed to Debra’s two children, ages 12 and 10. She later told her “Get your ass up, you’ve rested enough.”

While most of the time, Jillian yells and screams—let’s face it, that’s what’s expected of “America’s Toughest Trainer,” especially during her rigorous boot camp-style workouts—there are some moments during which she can be somewhat endearing and motivating. She repeatedly told the families that they needed to believe they deserved and were worthy of living a healthful life. She also made it clear that to live a healthful life takes a lot of work, isn’t easy, and takes much longer than one week.

Another highlight for me was when the families were introduced and encouraged to participate in enjoyable family activities that were outside the walls of a gym. I also appreciated the fact that Jillian encouraged the families to fill their grocery carts with more healthful foods, and to learn to cook and prepare the foods they love more healthfully and as a family.

Although both of the first two episodes ended on high notes—the family members all lost weight and were able to accomplish what some would say miraculous feats—for example, Debra Jones ran her first 5 k after only 6 weeks of meeting Jillian—overall I found the show to be predictable and highly scripted. Ratings for the second episode fell by 19 percent—does that mean Americans are tired of being berated into making permanent lifestyle change? Who knows.

But I firmly believe—not only as a registered dietitian but as a mother of two, and a daughter of a once obese mother (who successfully lost and kept off more than 100 pounds), and as someone who was overweight as a teen and young adult who has lost and kept off more than 30 pounds in a slow, steady, healthful way—that change can come to a struggling overweight family with a much more positive approach.

If you or your family struggle with your weight, here are some of my top tips—they may sound like small, insignificant changes compared to those endorsed and promoted by Michaels’ Losing It; but together, they can help you ease into and maintain your new and improved, more healthful life. My tips will minimize your risk for injury and help you stay motivated too:

  • Have more frequent family meals.

    Even three to four family meals per week are associated with health benefits such as improved overall nutrient intake, lowered risk for disordered eating patterns among teens, and lower risk for substance use (such as alcohol).

  • Take more time for active family outings.

    Even walking as a family to school, after family meals, or on weekends can burn calories and provide good (and fun) together time.

  • Set up your kitchen and eating areas to support healthful habits.

    Keep healthful foods you want to consume more of accessible and attractively presented (like a pretty fruit bowl on the counter top or veggie bowl in the fridge). Fill your fridge and pantry with foods from the key food groups you want to consume more of including fruits, vegetables, whole grains, lean sources of protein (including lean meats, fish, eggs, and beans, nuts, and seeds), and low fat dairy foods.        
  • Plan your treats

    Family members should keep only one or two of their favorite treats (that don’t come from the basic healthful food groups) in the house at any given time—or if they are too much of a temptation, they should only purchase single serve portions to have, when they plan them, once in a while. If you can keep your treats on hand (without feeling like you’re going to overeat them), keep them out of sight—for example, on a high shelf behind closed doors, and have a single serving (about 100 to 150 calories)—and enjoy it—but only when you’ve planned for it.

  • Set small, realistic, and achievable goals, one at a time.

    Having breakfast every day, having a few less bites at each meal, eating one more piece of fruit or cup of veggies each day, running one mile, or walking an extra ten blocks all count.  


Your thoughts....

What would Jillian have to say to your family?


Elisa Zied, MS, RD, CDN, is a nationally recognized registered dietitian and author of Nutrition At Your Fingertips, Feed Your Family Right!, and So What Can I Eat?!. She is also a past national media spokesperson for the American Dietetic Association.  For more information, go to www.elisazied.com, and www.nutritionatyourfingertips.com. Follow Elisa on Twitter and Elisa on Facebook.



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I never would have gotten fat if belittlement, ridicule, and "breaking them down" worked.  Every time I was "broken" it just hardened my resolve NOT to change--I'd cut off my nose to spite my face every time.  Not good, but "tough love" doesn't work with everyone.  Also, IMO sometimes tough love is just an excuse for somebody to be a bully. 

I read Jillian's website and find a lot of her comments/approach helpful, but not every approach works with everybody.

BTW, like another poster said, I'm sure NBC screens the participants thoroughly to find those who CAN take this treatment physically and psychologically.  The last thing they need is somebody dropping dead on the treadmill or harming themselves deliberately while doing this. 

 



While every comment is valuable in a blog, I think what usually gets forgotten is that we are all individuals.  Unique. Special and different.  What works for me, may not be your cup of tea.  We are in the USA.  One thing can happen with a t.v. show or a blog or a website, just do not participate. Turn off Jillian if she offends you.  Do not use this website or comment on its blogs if it is not meeting your needs.  After only two programs I understood one thing...these families asked for and accepted this help or treatment or whatever you want to call it.  The end comments were that something helped them to do something they had been struggling to do....and not just loose some weight but deal with one issue or another.  AND, it gets America to see and listen to what goes on in inside an obese person.  It is doing a service.  There are bootcamps out there for drug addicts and alcoholics and so on.....America needs to meet us OBESE folks and learn about our struggle and stop thinking we are just lazy.  So, it might not be for you, but programs like this are opening a new view on people with weight problems. none the less and someone MIGHT just be helped. Turn it off if it is not for you.  And the nose job comment....just mean. Like calling someone "TWO TON" I think. 



LOL I can't believe you can say that!  An animal is defensless!  They rely on us to feed them and protect them how can she not feel sorry and give into and love them?  Oh my people of course she is different with a person then with an animal.  Besides the fact that these people knowingly go into the show knowing she is Jillian and she is going to yell and scream and try to get them out of their comfort zone.  She is going to try to get them to lose the weight that they have had all their lives.  I would give anything to get the chance of a week with her!!!  Is it extreme??  YES!  Is it crazy?? YES!!!  But some people have let themselves go have given up on themselves and quite frankly need a reality check.  Life isn't easy people but to compare how someone treats a defensless animal and a out of control adult really isn't right.



I absolutely love this show. I did NOT like Jillian on The Biggest Loser. I thought she was unneccessarily mean to the contestants. On this show however, I love her. I think she is mean bc in her experiences, this is what has worked for her. In the shows I have seen, it has worked for the families. To me this is an AMAZING feat especially considering she has ONE week to work with these families. What I like about this show is that she really does come through and show her kind side. I honestly believe she wants these people to succeed.



Everyone responds to different coaching styles and keep in mind that no one is forcing the families to go on this show.  They know who Jillian is and they know her style.  They volunteer to have her come and help them take the first steps to a healthier life.  They are medically screened prior to Jillian ever showing up.  Both episodes showed the families speaking to a doctor that is telling them that if they continue on the path they are on, they will not survive.

Sometimes in order to get a person to open up and reveal the real reason they have made the choices they have, you have to make them mad.  It is the concept of breaking down to build back up.  People (me included) substitue food for something that is missing in their life or turn to food to keep from facing some other difficulty.  The first step is getting that person to admit to themselves what the real issue is.  Only then, can they address it and move on. 

Is Jillian tough, abrasive and sometimes mean?  Yes.  Does she get results?  Yes.  Would I respond positively to this type of coaching?  No, and that is why I do not apply for the show.  HOWEVER, there are thousands of people and families out there that this approach will work for.  Don't fault Jillian for catering to that group of people and trying to make a difference in their lives.



Here's my take on Jillian:  Several months ago an ad appeared in the Sunday Supplement newspaper...It stated that for a short period of time, Jillian's book could be downloaded for FREE from the internet.  That same day, I tried every which way to access this book with no success.  The following week, the ad was gone.  I think it was a ripoff planned by Jillian to get more people to read her book.  Whatever it was, I don't have much use for her now.  Ads that promise things and don't produce reflect badly on the person who made the claim. 



You people only see the screaming on tv, you have NO idea how long Jillian has had to coddle people to get them to do something. You act like she just starts off yelling. She asks quite nicely if you pay attention. If you don't want to be yelled at, or don't need it, then do it the first time she asks. Her time is valuable - not just monatarily. If she's wasting it on someone that doesn't want it, doesn't want to change, there's how many others that could use it that are dying??? Get real.



I agree with dorothyturk.... I've lost 107 lbs over the past year and started with and because of a lot of health issues (that were literally killing me).  This wouldn't have happened had I had someone yelling at me and making me feel like crap.  I would have internalized a lot of what she was saying to me and I would've ended up quiting and going into a deeper depression.  I believe there is a time and a place for a boot camp approach and one needs to be very careful about how much is being dished out on someone and to whom it's being dished out to.  BTW, the Army doesn't careabout your feelings... a trainer should.  At least, I'd expect one I'd hired to care about me enough not to make me feel like I'm a worthless pile of dung heap. 

thegoodpotato: "In conclusion: use your own will for weight loss, not someone elses."

When it comes to losing weight, I agree with the goodpotato!  BE YOUR OWN BOSS!!  If you take control of yourself and your eating habits, you will lose weight.   



Jillian would not have said anything to my family, as she would not be invited to help me with my weight loss.  I find her rude, offensive and a bitch.  As a registered nurse, I know that losing 20 pounds in a week is truely unhealthy, as they do on the biggest loser.  I tuned in for the first show of this series and will not be tuning in again.  I also do not watch the biggest loser.  People that are obese usually have some deep down turmoil in their lives, and dont need verbal abuse.

I do not mean that people need to be cudled.  But they need support, and not abuse.

 



Miss Jillian is just a bully! I had a brother who tried to help me with weight loss... he constantly bullied me, as did my father, in a not-so-different manner that Jillian did. In the end, it was just emotional abuse. I'm sorry, but insulting people and treating their causes as "nothing" or "just excuses" is just disgusting. Shame on Jillian! I can't even go to a gym now without feeling horrible, because my dad treated the gym more in the way one would view punishment.



As in other areas of our lives, there are alternative ways of addressing a problem.  Jillian has her way, and it's been noted (often in this thread) that it has not been forced or imposed upon those she's trained. 

Get off the "abuse" issue already.  If you don't like it, don't watch it.  If you don't agree w/ her methods, don't take part in it.  It's really that simple.



I'm running short on time so I didn't get to read all of the posts.  The ones I read were very interesting!  My two cents on Jillian is that people who turn to her kinda know what they are in for.  If you watch Biggest Loser and think you want to be a contestant - or her new show - you know what she will be like.  I sometimes think of her phrases when I am working out and it makes me work harder.  I could easily give myself excuses out of exercise but especially the day after I watch one of her programs, I won't let myself slow down or stop.  She's getting paid to perform in the way that she does and people can seek her out for help or not but if you do, watch out!



A couple of years ago I purchased a set of workout DVDs featuring Jillian Michaels. Although her workouts are good, I can't stand to watch the DVDs. She repeatedly smirks and laughs like a middle school girl. It is just annoying to have to endure every time you work out. Jillian, in my opinion, enjoys taunting and being in the spotlight far too much.



Just a few remarks: there are actually pics on-line of Jillian when she was heavy. She was never what I would consider "Obese" but she was 50lbs heavier than she is now (weighing 170lbs).  You can try this link (not sure if it will work) but you have to watch the video. http://www.thedoctorstv.com/main/show_page/D2023

Also, when I commented in my earlier post about a friend who needs to lose roughly 200lbs. I wasn't pointing any fingers. When I started, I needed to lose approximately 80lbs to even be on the HIGH END of my Healthy BMI. Since January, I have lost about 30lbs and have 50 to go.  My friend applied to the show and drives 150 miles for each audition. So it's not that I think she needs Jillian, it's that she thinks she does.

No, her approach isn't for everyone, but I can almost guarantee if you went and asked someone that she has helped lose 100, heck even 50 pounds, they'll tell you they'd do it again in a heartbeat!

And yes, the whole supplement endorsement threw me for a loop because she does advise against them in her book. I think she sold out a little bit for the all mighty dollar (as most celebs do). However, she has helped many and will continue to do so. And that my friends, is where the rubber meets the road!



I lost all respect for Jillian Michaels when she recently said she would never have a baby because "it would RUIN my body".

How about it, moms? Are your bodies RUINED?

Or do you just lack such monumental selfishness....

 



LOL...I think she has the right to not choose childbirth...even if it is simply not wanting to put her body through the process. Obviously having shildren aren't high on her priority list. Nothing wrong with that.



I find it disturbing and a little sick. Maybe that's because I believe in small steps. I've never felt that it's healthy to put your body through that kind of torture. Not to mention it's not a good idea to push yourself farther than you can go, knowing that the next day you'll get up and have to start it all over again. Exercise should be enjoyable. Nutrition should be natural.

Overeating and eating the wrong foods is usually attributed too simply to a lack of self-control. But it can be hugely an emotional issue. Forcing yourself to eat less and eat right may work for some, but I think it's easier and more effective to work with the actual underlying issues making you overeat. I always wanted to be thin, but I didn't care if I was healthy. Now I do. That's because I actually care about myself and my body. Somehow it's doable now. I can make softer, simpler, more permanent changes.

Losing weight quickly, like on The Biggest Loser, is not ideal. It seems like we treat health and weight loss like like a one-time thing. Only important when it's causing a problem. What kind of moderation do these people go home with? I feel like I'd either break completely or obsess myself with excessive exercise and calorie restriction.



I love her. She's great. The people are monitored so they can't really drop dead like some of you are thinking. This show is great!



I'm a follower of the "using your own will for weightloss, not someone else's."  The will goes for exercise and diet.

I enjoy my yoga where we're told that we look beautiful and it's "our perfect pose." It inspires me to try to be more beautiful and perfect--and at age 52 with two hip replacements--beautiful and perfect are ofcourse, a state of mind.

I have lost 30 lbs choosing my own diet and exercise, with guidance from CC.

But we still have to figure out how to do it. Certainly we are all gathering in  information and trying to choose what works best for ourselves. I would not be happy with an entirely JM approach, but there are some parts of what she says that I listen to, especially the parts about pushing yourself, which I can synthesize into the yoga term--"finding your edge." 

What I'm surprised about is that the show is a "one size fits all."  Somebody's got to be smarter than that. Anyone with a background in marketing knows that you emulate the persona of your customer. Why don't trainers adjust their training to the individual's needs? If Jillian was really worth her salt, she would customize her approach. Then the world wouldn't think that the only way to weightloss was by way of a boot camp. I'm taking the peaceful approach and doing just fine, thank you very much.



My problem with Jillian's Show (and really any tv weight loss show) is that it's all about fast numbers and fast results. But anyone who has lost a significant amount of weight and KEPT IT OFF for 3+ years knows that those changes have to come SLOWLY. You have to relearn how to eat properly, relearn what a TRUE PORTION looks like, retrain your taste-buds to enjoy healthier foods (& stop enjoying the greasy fast-foods), to slowly build up healthy exercise into your life. True and permanent weight removal comes from changing your entire life, and those changes, more often than not, MUST come slowly in order for them to become true, permanent habits and a WAY OF LIFE.

To be fair to her show, and those like it, America is all about NOW NOW NOW. We want to see big results and we want to see them FAST. Unfortunately when you go about weight loss like that 98% of those people will gain it ALL back and then some.



Original Post by: wildwildwes

I lost all respect for Jillian Michaels when she recently said she would never have a baby because "it would RUIN my body".

How about it, moms? Are your bodies RUINED?

Or do you just lack such monumental selfishness....

 


I think she definitely should have chosen her words better. Choosing your body over having a baby is a selfish act, but either choice is selfish depending on how you look at it. Some people only want a baby because they want to perpetuate their own genetic makeup, that too is a selfish act. I don't condemn or condone those who chooses either way. But I definitely think her saying it would "RUIN" her body is a ridiculous and a horrible thing to say. According to an online dictionary:

Ruin -

1. Total destruction or disintegration, either physical, moral, social, or economic. 2. A cause of total destruction. To say that having a baby would ruin her body is, I think, a total slap in the face to all women who have had a baby.


Personally I think she is WAY TO HARD on everyone.  These people aren't used to exercising and they are very obese.  I think she should work up slowly to high intensity exercising.  I felt bad for them and I found it sort of upsetting to watch.   She comes off as a machosist.



I personally think Jillian's approach can be taken as good, or bad. For example, some people work much harder when being told they have to keep going, or being intimidated. But some people just get super discouraged with the military in your face approach. But this has worked for the people she has trained, so she has no reason to stop what she's doing.



Three ten pound boy births did do a number on my body... but it was well worth it!  I can certainly understand the choice and the reasoning.  I mean if she wanted to be a mother, she'd work out during pregnancy, maybe even put out a pregnancy workout tape, and then get quickly into shape to show that it can be done and be a roll model for that.  But if she didn't really want to be a mother in the first place, then all the more power to her for not having kids she didn't want to have or that she resented because her hips got wider (because they do :0)



The main thing to keep in mind, though, is that weight-loss, health, fitness, success in restaurants, art, career, whatever is not an "all or nothing", "this or that", or "1 vs. 2" proposition.  We also cannot assume that the featured families suddenly woke up one morning and thought "let's call Jillian," just as restaurateurs didn't just ring up Gordon Ramsay one day and said "hey, come save my restaurant" to which Chef Ramsay responds "sure, I've got nothing else planned today."

Perhaps positive reinforcement ultimately failed for some people because it wasn't about reinforcement and encouragement, but pedantic patronization.  All of the tips posted are sensible, yes, but how often have many of us seen, heard, and read those same tips ad infinitum?  It becomes rote memorization after a certain point, and can lose its effectiveness therefore.

American audiences are geared up for melodrama, as evidenced by the noticeable difference in focus and tone of the US vs. UK versions of Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares.  Unless that changes, that's the type of show that producers will make with Jillian Michaels.

At the end of the day, if we've reached THAT level of failure in our efforts to where we need Jillian Michaels to come kick our butts, is she REALLY that far off in calling out the excuses, rationalizing, and justifying that we do to ourselves, and telling us to stop lying to ourselves?



Is "healthful" a word in America?



I agree with dkakallis!! She is not for everyone, when a person invites her into their life, they know what they are getting into!! It should not come as a shock!! My husband asked me the other day what would I do if Jillian Michaels asked me to work out with her, I said I would curl into a ball and cry like a baby!! Just because I choose not to work out the way she has people do, doesn't mean I haven't learned and been inspired by her. So inspired, that on Jan 4, 2010 I started eating better, and to date I have lost 70 lbs.



I don't like Jillian or her approach to "helping people"...I began a life-style change on December 9, with my husband.  I have lost 56 pounds and he has lost 62.  We did it on our own; with alittle help from research on the internet.  I don't think it is necessary to yell at people to motivate them.  Loving support is a better motivater, but I guess that donesn't get high TV ratings.  I will not ever watch the Biggest Loser or Losing it with Jillian because I believe in being kind to others...I mean, that is how I want to be treated!  I hope Jillian never has trauma in her life that causes her to need support from others.



Has anyone on here ever been in the military? This technique is used ALOT!

I like Jillian. I don't think that I would be offended in the least if when I
ASKED for her help she came and helped. Clearly these people know her and are aware of her techniques. 

It's like boot camp. They tear you down to the point of being broken and you grunt through it and realize you can accomplish anything. It is a kind of self worth that can not be described until you've gone though it. Just because Jillian is coming and helping the family for those two weeks, does NOT make her accountable for the rest of that family's life. After being given the tools for success they are either going to do it or not. I am not a huge fan of the all or nothing mentality, being a health crazed gym rat just isn't me. But going to the gym 4-5 times a week, and eating food that makes me feel good is my goal.

If Jillian is not your style, then don't beg to be put on the show or don't watch it. Simple as that.



Original Post by: anginwi

As in other areas of our lives, there are alternative ways of addressing a problem.  Jillian has her way, and it's been noted (often in this thread) that it has not been forced or imposed upon those she's trained. 

Get off the "abuse" issue already.  If you don't like it, don't watch it.  If you don't agree w/ her methods, don't take part in it.  It's really that simple.


No, I won't "get off" the abuse issue. Trying to silence me with that and saying "don't take part in it" or "don't watch it" is counter-productive. I have my opinion because I and many other people have been through this trauma. This sort of "help" AKA bullying from people like Jillian is taken far too often. People who are overweight are treated with demeaning remarks by society and she is no exception. You want to know part of the reason why I became overweight? Because people who acted in a similar manner to Jillian kept "helping" me. And even when I was losing weight, my self-worth went way down. This is what she does. This is what was done to me.

I am losing weight now because I am not being psychologically manipulated and am doing it of my own will. You see, when you have these "Jillians" around, it is an external will and force. This makes you dependent on that force. And isn't the premise of losing weight properly making it a lifestyle, independent to one person? What's the difference between depending on a person to yell at you and a pill? I'd rather take the pill, since it can't boss me around and treat me as subhuman.



For me any of the extreme measures type plans seem a bit crazy, but I'm not going to knock it because it's different strokes for different folks.  If it is effective for some people then I guess her work has merit. 

I haven't ever followed The Biggest Loser or seen Jillian's new show because after seeing little clips of it here and there I know that approach isn't for me. I haven't really seen it motivate my friends who do watch them, but, like I said, if it helps some then more power to her. 

I agree with those who talk about it being more about making the money and I think that is just a sad fact about our society.  It doesn't matter what the program or product is, it's all about the marketing and striking while the iron is hot. 

I do subscribe to her on-line tips of the day newsletter and I do find them somewhat motivating and informative. 



Jillian's approach is good - to a point.

It's irresponsible TV to show her pushing people to injure themselves (I saw this the first time I watched her on Biggest Loser - she pushed a gal to tear her knee, knocking her out of ALL the lower body workouts for weeks & having to get surgery). She'll push someone into a heart attack one of these days.

Meanwhile, most people do need to be pushed beyond their imagined abilities.

I personally suffer from exercise-induced asthma. I only know that because I do push myself beyond my limits - constantly going too far with volleyball & suffering from pain & dehydration for 2 days following. I would need someone to help me see the limits, not the endless possibilities.



I recently watched a show that had one of the winners of Biggest looser a year later. He was right back to where he started because he did not have the support or working out for 6 hours a day like he was when he was on the show. I think it is all about the ratings and drama. This is short term thinking and not long term.



Julian set the diet industry back decades. Doing tough motivation with a person you never met is useless. Screaming at a client in front of their kids should give them nightmares when they become adults. Why is weight watchers the most successful diet? Because they teach you how and what to eat for life and not because you are on tv this week. As a person with arthritis I found it disturbing that Jillian would force her to run when she complained of joint pain, not muscle pain.  This causes disability, period. Instead she could have did water aerobics or a more moderate CURVES type program. This woman is heading for 60, not 30, totally inapproriate and dangerous. I took off 65 pounds when I was in my 50's and a decade later I gained 15 back and weigh 165 which is healthy for me. I can easliy stay at that weight @ 1800 calories and exercise by swimming laps 4 times a week. Daily dose of  less than 1800 calories and I depleted of a good diet and I am tired. I don't run ( heavens) but swim laps , I am in Master Swimming and I am an active Kayaker and I teach paddling. The point here is to find what YOU love to do for exercise and you will just do it. I also like walking/ hiking although I have arthritis in my knee so I keep it short now. If you don't learn to eat right, cook simple healthy meals, exercise what you will do and keep it easy you will end up off your track and most gain even more weight because they are mad at themselves for not being able to keep up a harsh exercise schedule and near starvation diet. At the age of 61 my only health problem is arthris in my rt knee. My once high cholestoral is normal.



Original Post by: tsjej

I like Jillian, but this show isn’t for me. I just don’t buy into all the drama. Look, I was almost 300lbs and I had plenty going on in my life that I could have blamed for my weight gain. I could have gone on and on about losing my father at 47yo. I could have gone on and on about knee problems that kept be from being active…I could have said I was “focusing on my three kids and putting them first and didn’t take the time to take care of me”….I mean I had TONS of excuses, but you know what? I got almost 300lbs because I quit on myself, gave up and took the easy way out. It was no one’s fault but my own. I don’t have to resolve or come to grips with the bad things in my life to make good choices when it comes to my health. I just think we need to stop making excuses or looking for that “thing” that we can blame it on.

I would be very interested to see how these families in her show are doing six months or a year out. My guess is that once the euphoria of the experience wears off, they will be back to the same old thing….for the simple reason that they’ll figure out that the “root” of their weight problem.


Good for you Terry - I love to hear stories likes this. How did you do it?



I have purchased and used Jillian's workout game for the Wii, and I find it useful, when I mix in my other workouts too.  I appreciate that she has done a lot of research in developing plans for people, and I can admit that in the area of weightloss and healthfulness, she is much smarter than me and I will accept her advice and recommendations.

I don't like her apporach, nor do I find her personality endearing, even when she's being nice to people.  Something about her doesn't resonate with me, so I don't watch her on TV. 

I guess in conclusion, I like her brain, but not her image.



I agree with gotasya. My own sister had gastrobypass about 7 years ago because she was morbid obese, you will think she is in a healthy weight now, she is NOT. She weights more that 300 pounds and she blames my mother, my father and everyone else. She does not take responsability of her own actions. Sometimes tough love is necessary. Jillian's approach is not for everyone just like everything else.



There is alot of women and man that choose not to have kids for many reasons like career, independance, whatever the reason is a personal choice. I have a friend that feel the same way and she admits it that she is selfish and rather no have kids.



Original Post by: 4photochick

For me any of the extreme measures type plans seem a bit crazy, but I'm not going to knock it because it's different strokes for different folks.  If it is effective for some people then I guess her work has merit. 

I haven't ever followed The Biggest Loser or seen Jillian's new show because after seeing little clips of it here and there I know that approach isn't for me. I haven't really seen it motivate my friends who do watch them, but, like I said, if it helps some then more power to her. 

I agree with those who talk about it being more about making the money and I think that is just a sad fact about our society.  It doesn't matter what the program or product is, it's all about the marketing and striking while the iron is hot. 

I do subscribe to her on-line tips of the day newsletter and I do find them somewhat motivating and informative. 


Nobody is forcing this people into doing this show. They want her to come to their houses. They applied for it, they know her ways, and some people realize that, for them not for everyone, is the only solution.



I like Jillians approach but I also agree with the previous posters comment on her marketing the diet pills, the shakes are ok but diet pills come on we all know this is a bunch of crap! She is out to make a buck and will do what it takes, however she is a good trainer and the people who want to work with her know what to expect from her and if you could not handle the type of training she offers then you don't work with her, simple as that! She is tough and that is what is needed to get most of these people off their butts! but she is also on a tv show and needs ratings so for her to be all nice and sweet would not make for a good show.  Just my opinion...

 

 



Original Post by: anginwi

As in other areas of our lives, there are alternative ways of addressing a problem.  Jillian has her way, and it's been noted (often in this thread) that it has not been forced or imposed upon those she's trained. 

Get off the "abuse" issue already.  If you don't like it, don't watch it.  If you don't agree w/ her methods, don't take part in it.  It's really that simple.

 

"No, I won't "get off" the abuse issue. Trying to silence me with that and saying "don't take part in it" or "don't watch it" is counter-productive. I have my opinion because I and many other people have been through this trauma. This sort of "help" AKA bullying from people like Jillian is taken far too often. People who are overweight are treated with demeaning remarks by society and she is no exception. You want to know part of the reason why I became overweight? Because people who acted in a similar manner to Jillian kept "helping" me. And even when I was losing weight, my self-worth went way down. This is what she does. This is what was done to me.

I am losing weight now because I am not being psychologically manipulated and am doing it of my own will. You see, when you have these "Jillians" around, it is an external will and force. This makes you dependent on that force. And isn't the premise of losing weight properly making it a lifestyle, independent to one person? What's the difference between depending on a person to yell at you and a pill? I'd rather take the pill, since it can't boss me around and treat me as subhuman."

Florakorkis - Good for you on losing your weight, I applaud anyone who finds the intrinsic motivation to do so.  HOWEVER - you must be able to sit back and let others find their motivational inspiration.  I'm not judging you because you are obviously not needing a psychological slap in the face to get you moving in the right direction.  But don't be so quick to judge others because that is exactly what they feel they need.  Everyone is unique.  Let it be...

Ang



It may help them lose weight, Ang, but I believe it gives them a whole new set of emotional problems when they're actually working with this woman. I do not agree to Jillian's methods at all.



That's from YOUR outlook - not everyone shares that.  I don't think I have emotional problems from someone getting on my butt every once in a while.  It has made me personally, a much stronger person.  I've learned to fight for my health.  I'm not advocating this is the route everyone should take - just the opposite.  But ease up on those of us that can see the benefit of a different way of motivation.

Ang



It is all on an individual basis.  For me if I was overweight I would need the jillian approach.  I am like that to myself and have been all my life and that is why I never had a weight problem. Ya I am sure some of the comments are hurtful but she is not doing it to be hurtful, she is doing it to open peoples eyes about being obese and the terrible diseases and illnesses that come with being over weight. It is all on what type of training you can handle whether it be mental and or physical.     I agree with florakorkis if you do not want to be a part of it then don't, some people need it probably more do than not.



Not a fan of Julian at all. She want to be a psychotherapist but is not. Someday she will "open" up some deep wounds that she is not going to be able to handle or be around long enough for the aftermath. She only cares about her growing ego. She seems like the person who makes sure she get credit for anything good she does.

And as Bob as shown you don't have to be mean to a person for them to lose weight!



I tried to watch biggest loser and could not get through one episode. I felt so humliated for those folks, so I can only imagine how it would be to watch her new show. Different things motivate people. Money, berrating, attention, and momentary fame leading to the promise of continued fame.... She is also motivated by some of those things and not the urge to help others.These shows and people are successful because of the responses to the motivators. I suppose it helps motivate others in the mean time. Not me, but everyone is different.



They say in the beginning of the show that all families are screened and tested for health issues etc...



I think that for a lot of people Jillians way of thinking is the only thing that will wake them up. As in, many people just totally ignore their bodies and their health suffers as a side effect. I'm not saying that she does everything right, but maybe for those who are really ill from being overweight this might be the best method.



Soft words produce hard hearts, and hard words produce soft hearts.  I like Jillians approach to helping these people.  She recognizes that there is always some past issues in a persons life that makes them choose food as their comforter and become fat.  She has an ability to see that, get them to confront it and move past it to change their lives.  Some people choose drugs, alcohol, sex etc and she is dealing with people who choose food.



OK, so I watched the first half of her second show last night.  I figured that I should watch it because I commented on this thread.  I found myself fighting back tears for the poor woman and her daughter as she was being subjected to a real thrashing on the treadmill with the daughter witnessing both the physical struggle and the verbal berating. Wow is all I can say.  I can't wait to see how the episode ends though. 



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